Hello All, I need some help AGAIN!!! After kicking the Walther ppk/s idea around, thank you all for your help and opinions on that, the stories of the painful recoil and not being a joy to take to the range has led me in another direction. So now I would like to know if anyone owns or has some experience with the Beretta 84fs or 85fs(cheetah), would you please give me some info and/or your opinion. I dont know the difference between the both and could not tell. I love my 92fs, so if the "cheetah" shoots like it then I would be happy. Thank you for your help again.