Believing in a SHTF situation

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by Georgiahunter, Nov 8, 2011.

  1. Georgiahunter

    Georgiahunter New Member

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    How many of you believe that a SHTF situation will happen? Not criticizing anyone who does or doesn't. I finished Lights Out a few weeks ago and have been pondering the possibility of one occurring.
     
  2. gutz47

    gutz47 New Member

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    I thought this was the SHTF
     

  3. Georgiahunter

    Georgiahunter New Member

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    Haha, It will be if Obama gets elected again!
     
  4. gutz47

    gutz47 New Member

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    aaaaahhhhhh!!!
     
  5. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    Well, it's only a matter of time before Yellowstone blows or we get slammed by a killer asteroid or someone pops off nukes, right? It's not a matter of if, but when.

    Will any of us be alive to see it? Who knows?

    Don't prep for the SHTF situation. Prep for every situation.
     
  6. Dillinger

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    You have, in this life, seen what happens when society breaks down, right?

    Rodney King Riots?

    Katrina?

    Things like that?

    People WILL lose the sense God gave them when SHTF and the infrastructure they rely on is compromised.

    You want proof?

    Review the police blotter from anywhere that lost power for more than three days. :rolleyes:

    JD
     
  7. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    Having a decent food supply, means of treating water, the capability of self defense, shelter, water stored, light and heat is a good idea at any time.

    I have insurance too. I don't have it because I expect to use it, I have it just because it's prudent.



    However, there's always those damned zombies. ;)
     
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  8. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    I predict that we in the US will experience a total collapse of society within 5 years. Read Rawles' "Patriots" too.
     
  9. kfox75

    kfox75 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Growing up on and near Marine bases, I live with the mindset that a SHTF situation is not a posibility. It is a probability. Where I live now there are frequent power outages and more unprepared people than I even want to think about. One half mile from me is a bay on lake erie that floods every spring and is a tourist area in the summer. Fifteen minutes away is a power plant and a national guard armory. Right now , we have an occupy group in the colledge town that is right next to the power plant, another one 40 minutes the other direction, we were just passed by an asteroid, and we are just 407 days away from 12/21/2012!:eek: Hell, I've lived in a bull's eye for so long that I don't even think about if it will happen, I think about when it will happen. By being ready for the big things, the little emergencies that come up are never an issue. :cool:
     
  10. Sniper75

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    I believe that prepping and knowing how to deal with situation as they arise, should be common sense. Whether your the guy who prepping for complete Armageddon with nukes and a 12000' tsunami at the same time or not it just is good practical sense to prep even a little. Even if its for the next power outage or winter storm Its just a good idea. I mean you can prep for however you like but in the end ( and this is the best way I have ever heard it put) its all about the size of the insurance policy you want to take out. Cause that's what prepping is, An insurance policy. You just have to decide if your just gunna have the minimum or full coverage. And I also agree with the other guys out there you should be prepping for everything. You dont need a BOL for every situation, but maybe a plan or at least an idea of what you might do. That's a whole lot better the crossing the bridge when you come to it.
     
  11. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    This....

    Prepare for this with food, supplies and means to protect yourself. Most people can't last a couple of days without going to the store or restocking themselves in some way. Once they're no longer comfortable they're upset and without a social structure they freak out.
     
  12. patkinney1

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    Yes we will have a major SHTF I hope it does not last for years but no way to tell so keep on prepping!:D
     
  13. trip286

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    I feel that a good rule of thumb is to prep for a minimum of 5 years survival. And then, just keep stocking. With a mind towards making it go even longer, like by having the know how and the information to do things like make your own fuel, clothes and shoes.
     
  14. partdeux

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    Think Katrina, people that stayed were in a world of hurt. Can that possibly happen on a larger scale? If it does, it will get very very ugly. I'm keeping a close eye on the mess with the Euro and the PIGS. that has the potential to cascade all the way back here.
     
  15. JTJ

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    When Yellowstone blows again, the disaster zone will be a 500 mile radius. That is 785,000 square miles. How do you evacuate an area that size with possibly a few days notice. How many will believe it is happening? What will happen to law and order when people panic? When it will blow is not known. It could be next week or 1000 years from now. We can not predict when cataclysmic events will happen. We only know they will happen because they have happened in the past.
    We know the San Andreus fault in CA will break loose yet people still live on it. We know Cascadia (OR & WA) is overdue for a major earthquake but life goes on as usual. We know there will be another tsunami but for now the coast is alive and bustling. When Mt St Helens blew, some people did not believe how bad it would be and stayed/died despite plenty of warning.
     
  16. trip286

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    What's the ground swell in Yellowstone up to now? Last I heard I think it was something like 37 feet.
     
  17. Caoimhin

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    You never know what is just around the corner. Think "your" neighborhood. We in mine have to worry about wildfires, the 2 tons of chlorine stored over at the water treatment center and a spot called Santa Fe Junction where 2 interstate high pressure gas lines merge. Every time the terror threat is elevated we have to post a police officer there. But even on a smaller scale, wife forgets to pay elect bill and it is after hours when you discover you have no power, yes she did it. Or how about a tornado or flood in a section of your city and family members show up at your home battered and bleeding by the storm and power is out area wide. These are all SHTF. Even if it's just your fan, it is better to be prepared. The world is on shaken ground but the bottom may not fall out. There are a lot of us who are not on the nightly news who still believe in America. Find a 90 yr old Greek person that lived through the revolution. Let them tell you the stories of living 2 years under rocks. Working all day hard labor for 1 or 2 shotgun shells just so you can attempt to shoot a bird for the family meal. Miss your target and no one eats. What the communists did to you when they caught you? True stories of real a SHTF event. Know some old Jewish people with tattoos? I'll bet their home is filled with hidden stashes of food and a gun with enough rounds for each member of the family, their not going through it again. So if your waiting on Yellowstone, an EMP or FEMA you may miss the real SHTF in your life.
     
  18. TLuker

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    I don't think an all out SHTF situation is likely anytime soon, but I could be wrong? I also think everyone should make every attempt to be as self sufficient as possible regardless of SHTF. You can never be free if you can't provide for yourself.
     
  19. CarlsbadRanger06

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    Has anyone thought about another major economic depression?

    While we are currently in a pretty bad recession, some folks think that we will come out of it unscathed.

    The reality is this:

    A few countries around the world are completely broke. Our country is borrowing money left and right and scrambling to pay it back. Hell, a few months ago, I had to worry about not receiving a paycheck while deployed to Afghanistan!!!

    Another Depression, like our depression in the brig inning of this century would devastate and quite possibly end our country. Here's why:

    1- Population...... There are nearly 5 times more people in this country now than there were back then. That means there would be more outs to feed, more cars to fuel, more households to heat, and more criminals and/or vagrants that will try to rob, steal, and hurt people for what they have.

    2- Less natural resources. During the first depression, there was MUCH more petroleum, water, and even fresh air!

    Many experts believe that if the stock market fell and everyone lost all their money/savings, there would be widespread pain and crime.
    Marshal law would be enacted as law enforcement would not be able to control the population.

    Back then, people were brought up better and had better values and morals instilled in them. Nowadays, sadly, it is not so.

    Even the military, it is expected, four lose up to 44% of its ranks as soldiers, who would not receive a paycheck, would simply quit and go AWOL. (I wouldn't, but I can assure you that many would.)

    So, in essence, another depression could likely be our next SHTF scenario.....

    "Adjust your DOPE Sergeant!....... Not the skunk smellin' stuff in your BugOut bag!!! The stuff that makes you hit that target
     
  20. Dillinger

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    The basic societal safety net is the power/gas/water supplies and the ability to "go down to the local grocery store" and/or order pizza or other delivery.

    Take that away for one day, no problem. Make it three, people begin to panic.

    A week and people start to lose their god damn minds!! :eek:

    2006 - Here in Washington State some folks were out of power for as long as 11 days. On day 5 we had to hire off duty police to monitor the parking lots and "employee" entrances because people went bananas!

    If you think you ARE NOT 72 rough hours away from urban chaos I urge you to watch the news during the next big flood, power outage, Hurricane's impact or earthquake.

    When SHTF - the people who are prepared will be the ones making, and keeping, the rules/laws.

    YMMV, but I kind of doubt it.

    JD