Begginer help

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by timrz, Aug 29, 2011.

  1. timrz

    timrz New Member

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    I just started handgun shooting and I'd like a little general advice if anyone can give. I've been shooting an old looking ruger .22 caliber that looks like it's straight out of WWII :p I want to move up to something a little bigger (and hopefully cooler looking) but I'm worried about the kick. Will the kick on bigger handguns hurt you?
     
  2. AznZOhAn

    AznZOhAn New Member

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    I feel a good starter pistol caliber is a 9mm Luger. It's a manageable recoil, very accurate round, and not too expensive to shoot. Your choices for 9mm are wide and not too bad on price. My personal suggestion would be rent a few different brands of pistol, read about some, and get some open minded advice from people in the forum. I like Glocks, Springfield xd, smith and wesson M&P, and sig sauer for a 9mm choice. Find out what features you want and what price range you're working with and go from their.
     

  3. TX45

    TX45 New Member

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    I would like to suggest the Ruger SR9 or its compact version SR9c. Very soft recoil and very accurate.
     
  4. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Tim- a reasonable question. FWIW, my 15 yr old granddaughter shoots my 9mms, and my .357 Magnums (loaded with .38 Special wadcutter target loads)

    YES, they have recoil. But not painful. All other things being equal, a heavy gun will recoil less than a light gun IN THE SAME CALIBER.


    There is a great variety of 9mm pistols and ammo, and prices are reasonable. You may also want to take a look at .38 Special or .357 magnum revolvers.

    ARE there painful handguns? Yep. A 2" .357 loaded with hot Buffalo Bore ammo will not only bring tears to your eyes, but may draw blood. I have no desire to fire .500 S&W, .475 Linebaugh, etc again. To me, they would be useful only for hunting LARGE bear, blue whales, and small armored vehicles.

    The suggestion to find a range that rents handguns is a standard suggestion, and a very good one.
     
  5. partdeux

    partdeux Well-Known Member

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    Tim,

    My wife and I are just beginning ourselves. Our first venture into a LEO recommended shop and range was a disaster. I don't care how much money was burning a hole in my pocket, I wasn't buying or renting anything from there. Sad part, among the big non chain stores, they had the best reputation... Finally found a great range with a large selection of rentals, and a great shop with the nicest owners.

    I now own a 22/45 and she owns the XD(M) compact. Two great guns. Rentals are the ticket, you will find the firemarm that feels most comfortable to you.
     
  6. timrz

    timrz New Member

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    Thanks, I'll take these guns into consideration. At my range I payed 300 dollars for unlimeted ammo and gun rentals for one month. Considering I go there every day I think that's a pretty good deal. Anyways, they have both of those guns there and I'll test both of them out. Thanks for the suggestion!
     
  7. timrz

    timrz New Member

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    And c3shooter, I heard that 9mms have a nasty habit of kicking a little sideways, is that true? And if so how do I compensate for it?
     
  8. jismail

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    Is the pistol going to be used as a range pistol or will it have other intended roles such as HD or CCW? Also, who is shooting it - you, your wife, or kids?

    The reason I ask is that there are many options to consider as barell length and type, sight packages, handgun weight, SA/DA, caliber, etc etc etc...

    Once you are pretty clear on what you want to do with the handgun, then using the price range you have specified, you will be able to create a short list of candidates and go to your range and test fire as many of them as you can before you decide.
     
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    A 9mm in almost any platform (except a micro carry gun) is going to be relatively mild and manageable for someone of average strength.

    Getting a heavier but well balanced gun will also contribute to recoil management. I'm a big fan of CZ 75, Browning Hi-Power, and Sig P226 in that regard. If you have larger hands, a Beretta 92 is also a good option.
     
  10. sweeper22

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    That's a pretty cool deal.

    I find it's easy to send about $80-100 in ammunition down range in a single session. That's 200rds 9mm ($45), 100rds 45acp ($35), and maybe a little something extra depending on what I take with me.
     
  11. timrz

    timrz New Member

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    Well mostly I just wanna do target shooting but I've got some crazy friends that go out and hunt armed only with pistols and knives. I may join them if I become a good enough shot. For now it's just me target shooting, and maby my girlfriend if she gets interested.
     
  12. timrz

    timrz New Member

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    Oh sry I forgot to specify, that recent message was to jjsmail
     
  13. timrz

    timrz New Member

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    Sweeper22,
    The range master is a close friend, he's the one that got me interested in shooting. Usually it's 600 dollars for this deal but he gave it to me for this special price on the condition that I can only use their bottom line ammo (the suckiest available) for the gun I'm using. Any other ammo I have to purchase myself. But still, I'm no pro so it doesn't make much difference to me.
     
  14. Overkill0084

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    Just starting out, I'd hunt down a .357 revolver of some sort. For range use with potential hunting, I'd look at a 6" barrel. Ruger or S&W would be a safe choice for new purchases. Same for used, with Colt and Dan Wesson added for variety.

    If you insist on a semi-auto 9mm, CZ 75b. Inexpensive, reliable and accurate. Good all around pistol. It wouldn't be my first choice for hunting, however.
     
  15. c3shooter

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    Only way that a 9mm recoils "sideways" is if you are using the Gangsta drive-by grip- seen in movies frequently- with the pistol rotated 90 degrees from the vertical. :p

    homeboy.jpg click the pic 2 enlarge

    Have shot a Browning Hi-Power for years- not cheap, but IMHO, among the very best pistols ever designed.

    Now, if you want SNAPPY- I have a Para Ordnance C7/45. .45 ACP about the size of a S&W Chief's Special revolver. THAT gets a bit snappy on recoil- not vicious, just sort of HELLO!
     
  16. timrz

    timrz New Member

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    Haha thanks for that picture. Gave me my answer AND made me laugh. Anyways, money isn't much of a factor for me so I was thinking about getting a nice H&K USP. I love how they look, and I tested one on the range today and it was amazing, well at least to my untrained self. Before I go ahead with it tho, is there any reasons anyone would not recommend this purchase? I thot the gun handled really good, but again, I don't know that much about guns.
     
  17. AznZOhAn

    AznZOhAn New Member

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    H&K is good, but my personal preference is Sig Sauer. They shoot great and feel really good in my hands. Sigs in general cost less than H&K and you get a little better pistol, IMO. I wouldn't suggest Sig's polymer pistols tho, try the P220 (45 acp), P226 (9 mm, 40 S&W, or 357 Sig), P229 (9 mm, 40 S&W, or 357 Sig), or P239 (9 mm, 40 S&W, or 357 Sig).
     
  18. Quentin

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    Definitely hang on to your Ruger .22 no matter what you get. Because of cost many of us shoot ten times as much .22 as the nearest centerfire cartridge. And you still get practice that helps on your larger calibers.

    As far as what to buy, definitely go with the rentals in various calibers to see which gun and caliber you like best. I suppose if you want a semiauto handgun and are concerned about recoil, the 9mm makes a lot of sense. Of the classics, the Hi Power is one of the best but today a Glock 19 or other polyguns make sense.
     
  19. canebrake

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    Find a vintage Browning Hi Power, you will love it!

    I am a rabid Colt 1911 fan and had gone 17 years without shooting a BHP until............

    Found this sweetheart on Gunbroker for $500 and was reunited with the brilliance of John Moses Browning's P35!

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    A quick search on the interwebz and you can find a quality Mec-Gar 15-Round Magazine for ~$22 or a nickel plated one for ~$25. That gives you 16 rounds of 9mm protection in the same package size as the 13rd mag and in a steel gun that is incredibly easy to stay on target. I reduced my Mozambique drill times 20% and upped my hit ratio near 35%! And that's compared to my 8+1 round 3" Defender.

    Yea, I'm a big fan of the P35 (Browning Hi Power) and it shoots far past my skill level!

    I liked it so much that when a nickel BHP popped up I jumped on it! It cost a tad more than the blued BHP but worth every penny.

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    Do yourself a favor and before you buy your handgun, shoot a BHP in 9mm. I'll let the gun do the sales pitch!

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  20. HOSSFLY

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    Thats one of those nasty ideas you do NOT want to get into your head!
    You do NOT want to try to compensate for any type of recoil:confused:
    Go with the recoil- Its in no way going to hurt you if you hold & fire your handgun properly :)
    BTW- My wife has & LOVES her Ruger SR9C (shes little):cool: