be vigilant

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by heritage58, Apr 28, 2009.

  1. heritage58

    heritage58 New Member

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    I know there are many news outlets that will state with absolute authority that the recession is nearing an end, that our President has taken the necessary steps; the best brains have a great grasp of the problem, and with patience, all will be resolved. I can only offer an opinion.... I'm no better informed than most of us, I have no stairway to the future, nor do I believe I'm smarter than the next guy. But, in my heart, I think those who do or try to prepare for a bad next 18 months are on the correct track. What is the harm in saving canned food, cooking oil, gold and silver, toilet paper, aspirin, etc. if you can afford to do so. Inflation is coming. Those of us old enough to remember recall gasoline rationing in the early seventies. The havenots want what the haves have. Simple economics. Ammo could be scarce, lettuce could be scarce. I don't like to be labeled a "nut" any more than the next person, but I'm at the point that I really don't give a s...We can not spend and borrow ourselves out of a problem. That's what got us into this mess in the first place. I have granite countertops and a car in the garage that I can't afford to maintain like alot of others. In conclusion, keep your message. I agree 100%.
     
  2. G-Man

    G-Man New Member

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    No one's keeping you from doing this...however, I am having a very hard time understanding these types of reactions, just like the current hoarding of ammo. Guns and ammo shops are the only ones benefiting from these unfounded fears and believe me, they are doing their best to keep this going.
     

  3. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    Well, I don't think "unfounded fears" is an appropriate term. But by all means, believe and do what you want. Personally, I prefer to err on the side of caution.

    G Man, did you happen to notice who's in power and what they're doing?
     
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  4. G-Man

    G-Man New Member

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    I know who's in power. However, experience and age have taught me not to fall prey to "hypes".
    By the way, to all of you hoarding ammo...when you decide to sell, (because you realize that you will never have to use 1,000,000 rounds of ammo), contact me. I'll offer you a "reasonable" price.
     
  5. RL357Mag

    RL357Mag New Member

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    Experience, and age in particular, have taught me that things are changing in this country as they never have in the past. A collapse of society, or at least a revolt, are real possibilities now, not just the rantings of disenfranchised lunatic fringe elements of society. You can only push people so far before SOMETHING gives, and at least half the people are tired of "giving", and that number is growing every day. The Left knows this, and that's why Janet Napolitano issued her warning about Veterans, Pro-Lifers, and Evangelists. Food and water stockpiles make sense, as do a means of protection of family and possessions. The panic buying of weapons and ammo should indicate the seriousness with which many in this country view the current state of affairs. This has never happened before, not even before the '94 gun ban.
     
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  6. G-Man

    G-Man New Member

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    Keep me posted when this is about to happen so that I am prepared...In the mean time, let me get another cup of coffee and read the paper. :rolleyes:
     
  7. RL357Mag

    RL357Mag New Member

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    Oh ok - I'll be sure to do that...:D
     
  8. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Yeah. That is going to be RIGHT THERE near the top of my list of shi'ite to do..... :rolleyes:

    Remember about 6 or 8 months ago when everyone was saying there was NO WAY we would have an economical meltdown because the Powers at Be wouldn't let that happen again..... There was like 2 or 3 guys who really thought it was going to happen and the rest of us thought they were nuts.... 'Memba that?? :eek:

    JD
     
  9. RL357Mag

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    It's unfortubate JD, but some people refuse to see what's staring them in the face. I guess that's natural though - it's called "natural selection" and "survival of the fittest". I'm giving serious thought to investing in gold. With the cost of our debt up around 9 trillion $, it doesn't take a genius to figure out the dollar will soon be worthless. 2000 yrs. ago a gold coin would buy a nice toga, some undergarments and some sandals, today a gold coin will buy a nice suit, shirt, tie and shoes. Not much devaluation there!
     
  10. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    There was a thread on this awhile back while you were gone, or perhaps a drift of a thread, and there was a very strong arguement made AGAINST buying gold right now because of it's extremely high price.

    I don't know - I should have bought some last year when the financial sky was falling, but I didn't because I didn't think the bubble would burst. I was one of the people saying "Ah we are smarter now than they were back then ( in the 20's ) plus there is too much foreign money tied to our prosperiety now, this will NEVER happen" :eek:

    I wouldn't advocate taking out a second on the house to stock the shelves and buy guns & ammo - but when we go to the store now, we buy some extra each week of canned goods and stuff that will keep. Dry foods. Mac & Cheese ( that stuff has a half life of forever ). Stuff like that.

    I did a purchase of .22lr ammo because I have several .22's that I love to shoot anyways, and if need be, I think it will make great trade bait. Batteries. Got some extra ones at Costco with a coupon. Nothing extreme, but little stuff that is adding up to more than enough for a couple of weeks. *shrug* :confused:

    If I'm wrong, I got plenty of household stock of stuff I can use that didn't break the bank and didn't cause me to lose the house payment. If I am right - well, the perimeter around my place will be secure. ;)

    JD
     
  11. SGT-MILLER

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    It's better to be prepared, and look like the fool if nothing happens, then being unprepared and at the mercy of strangers if society fails.

    That's the lesson for the day. :)
     
  12. skullcrusher

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    Remember, men, there has to be some fodder left behind for FEMA to take care of in the camps. We know who some of them are. :D
     
  13. CA357

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    I'll just continue to do what I feel is necessary to provide for me and mine. If and when things get rough, I can take comfort in knowing that more mature and wise men will be the first to go. Kind of a know it all early warning system. :cool:
     
  14. skullcrusher

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    +10 spoken truth.

    I believe that those who understand what is going on will be the ones who will repopulate the Earth with the best of the best of gene pools. :)
     
  15. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    CA357 - Sometimes you slay me man. That's awesome.... LOL

    :D:D:D

    JD
     
  16. bkt

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    Our fundamental problems are monetary: United States currency is garbage. Printing more money to "spend our way out of a recession" cannot work.

    I'm looking forward to being proven wrong.

    In the meantime, I'm stocking up on stuff. If I have it and never need it, maybe I'll feel a little goofy. If I don't have it and need it then I'll feel a whole lot worse, particularly with a family looking to me to provide for them.

    (Note: This isn't an Obama problem. It existed long before he was born. The problem blossomed during Bush's tenure, and Bush did exactly the wrong things. Obama is following in his footsteps. In this climate, no politician can do what should be done and remain in office long.)
     
  17. RL357Mag

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    Gold really hasn't increased much in the last year. But several CPA's and radio Investment Advisors have predicted radical increases of up to $2500/oz. within 5 years. It actually spiked to over $1000 last month for two days. The problem with gold is, it's really not worth investing in unless you have at least $10,000 to play with. That can buy an awful lot of other things like food, water, and supplies. I built a small hunting cabin out of local rough cut pine (12 x 16) a few years ago for $1500 and am considering expanding it to 16x24 this summer, digging a well, and putting in a septic and 100amp service. It has a months worth of food and water, a wood stove, and furniture.I sheet-rocked it and put outlets and light fixtures in. Currently I use two 12v truck batteries in parallel and have 12v/40w RV bulbs in ceiling fixtures for light. I also put a exterior plug outside that will plug into my generator to supply 110v if needed. It's on a hill, so I have the "high ground" advantage.:)
     
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  18. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    Nice. It looks peaceful.
     
  19. RL357Mag

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    It's a good reprieve on the weekends from the daily grind - my rifle/pistol ranges are a short distance away also - so while the distant neighbors may not think so, yes, it is peaceful, especially when the leads' flying! :D
     
  20. Jo da Plumbr

    Jo da Plumbr New Member

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