BB / Pellet rifle

Discussion in 'Other Weapons' started by falseharmonix, May 21, 2010.

  1. falseharmonix

    falseharmonix New Member

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    I just planted a vegetable garden in my back yard. I've got an over abundance of squirrels, rabbits, and pesky birds.

    Being how I live in Illinois, and in a suburb, I cant discharge a firearm. However, I believe that BB and Pellet rifles are "okay" (Im looking into local laws before I get into trouble). So I am in the market for a semi-accurate rifle. I have no idea where to begin looking, and do not know which brands to look at and which to avoid.

    Any takers?
     
  2. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    You want a pellet rifle first of all,forget about bbs for killing rabbit sized animals.You don't need anything exotic or more than .177 caliber for what you intend to shoot,and there are a few .177 1,000fps pellet guns that are about $100 like the Daisy 1000X and the Crosman Quest that will more than do the job right.The .22 caliber versions will work fine too if you choose,they shoot 800fps but the .22 pellet is twice as heavy,either way you get about the same killing power.If you want to go more exotic,RWS and Gamo I know are great rifles,but beware of the .177 guns that fire 1,100fps or greater,they produce a sonic boom as loud as an actual .22 bullet.Whatever gun or caliber you choose ,make sure it shoots less than 1,100fps to be sure you won't be making sonic booms in the city to draw attention.
     

  3. dnthmn2004

    dnthmn2004 New Member

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    What he said ^

    Or you could look into one of these.
     
  4. Troy Michalik

    Troy Michalik Is it Friday yet? Supporter

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    Let's not forget about the Benjamin / Sheridan line.

    Quality products that will give a lifetime of service. And if you decide later to get rid of it, they hold great resale value.
     
  5. falseharmonix

    falseharmonix New Member

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    Holy $hit! I do not need that kind of firepower!
     
  6. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Skip the BB gun- no accuracy, no power. A good pellet gun can amaze you with their accuracy. Higher power= more noise- I have one that is LOUDER than a .22 rifle loaded with CCI CB cap ammo. I also have an older Sheridan Blue Streak in 5mm (20 cal) that will kill squirrel deader than 4 o'clock at 45 yards- But DO check local laws. You MAY have problems with hunting season, hunting license, etc.
     
  7. falseharmonix

    falseharmonix New Member

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    According to Illinois law, I'm in the clear. I just need to check into local laws.
     
  8. Mack Bolan

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    actually in illinois any airgun that shoots over 600fps is considered a firearm, i'm almost positive thats how the fine print reads as i was looking into these types of guns last fall and the legality of possession and such.

    squirrels and rabbits are usually fearless enough that you could be close enough to em to use a tazer instead :eek:
     
  9. falseharmonix

    falseharmonix New Member

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    Perhaps that is a Chicago local law? From what I understood it "basically" states that as long as I'm older than 13, am not leaving my property, and don't shoot it across streets or go onto public property I'm in the clear.

    I have an edit. I was doing more digging, and it appears anything firing a projectile over .18" diameter might fall into the grey area of a firearm. So by definition, .177" projectiles are okay.



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    One last edit. Illinois State Police website pointed me to Illinois firearm laws. Nowhere did it ever mention BB or Pellet guns in any capacity. I think it is up to the individual cities or counties to regulate them.

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  10. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    If that's the case do this:
    Crosman 2260. Air rifles - PyramydAir.com

    .22 Caliber Pellets@600fps,that should do the job.It's Co2,inexpensive,probably really quiet,faster to reload than a spring powered,and a Crosman.
     
  11. falseharmonix

    falseharmonix New Member

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    Okay, I lied. Here is from the Illinois State Police website on the FOID card section.

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  12. M14sRock

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    I'd like to know what this translates to in IL.

    "expels a single globular projectile not exceeding .18 inch in diameter".

    Globular? A "Glob" is a ball I think.
    Not exceeding .18 inch in diameter? So, anything smaller than .18 IS a firearm, but anything over.18 is not?

    Now I gotta start some digging.
     
  13. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    M14- nope- t'other way around. A "globular" (globe shaped- round to us peasants) projectile LESS than .18 is excepted. That means a BB gun (.177 cal) is NOT a firearm. A PELLET gun does not shoot round projectiles, so it IS a gun.

    Wonder how they feel about slingshots and pointy sticks? :rolleyes:
     
  14. cpttango30

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    I dunno about not accurate. I just shot a squirrel between the eyes at 7 yards on top of my shed.

    I would go with a gamo whisper over anything else even though it does not quiet the gun that much.
     
  15. M14sRock

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    Aha! The key word was "excluding". Makes way more sense now.

    Part of my job description involves deciphering, interpreting and clarifying verbiage in contracts, so this one was going to get some breaking down on Monday. Ha. Now I have some "spare" time.
     
  16. Davyboy

    Davyboy New Member

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    Great wind up
     
  17. Mount_Sannine

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  18. ninjatoth

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    Man that sucks that the laws there exclude you from having pretty much anything but .177 caliber bb guns.In your case I would DEFINITLY go with a CO2 gun if you still want to kill pests.Any bb gun that shoots less than 700fps will injure or slow down a smaller pest,but you will need the speed of a CO2 repeater to put 10 more bbs in it to seal the deal.It is hard to find a rifle CO2 bb only repeater,there are plenty of bb CO2 pistols,but not rifles,and you got to be careful because if it can load a pellet,even if you are shooting just bbs,if it can even possibly load a pellet you're in trouble.If it were me I would get this:
    IZH-Baikal IZH Drozd BB Pistol. Air guns - PyramydAir.com

    it's a little pricey,but it's powerful,bb only legal,less than 700fps and can go full auto,that would send some fur flying;)