Barska M-16 Electro Sight Scope or Sightmark Ultra Shot Holographic

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by bean1, Jan 29, 2014.

  1. bean1

    bean1 New Member

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    Was wondering which of these would be best on my AR-15? Don't want to tie up a bunch of money buying a Eotech.
     
  2. Dahamp2003

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    Check out primaryarms.com. Better quality than both of those for the same or just a little more price. They have a great reputation and super fast shipping. I have a 6X magnifier from them and it's great. Also have purchased mounts, etc.
     

  3. sweeper22

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    crockett007 New Member

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    Neither...airsoft quality mall ninja Chinese junk. Buy good quality gear, save up if you have to. Buy once ...cry once:rolleyes:
     
  5. Dahamp2003

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    I second those as well. Just saying. If you can't afford 115$, the primary arms is still better than barska. I started with truglo, quickly went to vortex strikefire, then to Aimpoint Comp M2
     
  6. p35bhp55

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    I have a Barska and the SPARC and it would be hard for me to pick for you. The little Barska is NOT junk and I wonder how many people making that claim have used one. If you can get a SPARC for 150. I think that would be my first choice, but if you plan on changing the mounts after your first assembly, suggest you clean the Loctite from the screws. My Barska is mounted on a pump 12 ga. with a folder that I need to shoot with my head up cause I'm a lefty and the hinge ends up in your face if you get close. It has run who knows how many 2 3/4 slugs under it and given zero problems over the last 7 years.

    P.S. If you can live with the size I have one of these and in the future will be heading more this way. On 1 power it's a dot and when you crank the dial it's a real scope. http://www.natchezss.com/Optics.cfm...&brand=BH&prodID=BH731424M&prodTitle=Bushnell Trophy 1-4X24 Riflescope Illum. 4A Reticle Matte
     
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  7. Gunsnob

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    Both are crap. But then again, so is Eotech. Buy a quality red dot like an Aimpoint.
     
  8. Dahamp2003

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    Barska. Junk. I have experience with them. I'm glad yours is still working but I've seen a whole lotta barska that don't work. No offense man, just wanna help someone get a quality optic for that pricepoint.
     
  9. p35bhp55

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    Fair enough, but have you had the Electro dot fail? I have zero experience with the scopes so they may be trash from front to back for all I know. I have yet to even change the little battery stack in mine. Back when I got it 1or 2 MOA dots were rare and the crosshair got be turned down to a fine +.
     
  10. John_Deer

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    I haven't seen anyone have good luck with Barska products.

    Get a simmons manufactured at the Meade labs facility if you need an inexpensive optic. If you mount the simmons properly with an inch pound wrench you will have a truly fog proof and shockproof optic. If do some research you will find out simmons is manufacturing a lot of stuff for other companies, including bushnell.
     
  11. p35bhp55

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    LOL. I've has the same luck with the AETEC that others have had with the Barska and Meade wouldn't stand behind them. AETECs were my last attempt at a "bargain" in riflescopes, since then it's Burris and Leupold.

    A quick search now shows ATK owning Bushnell, Weaver, and Simmons and the AETECs being sold as Weavers.
     
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  12. John_Deer

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    Kind of funny I get a lifetime warranty with anything coming out of Meade Labs. I don't even have to save the receipt. There are no riflescopes sold under the Meade Labs name. Meade Labs brand items are telescopes and microscopes.

    A quick search confirmed that Bushnell could be purchased by ATK.

    The people asked not to be identified because the matter is confidential. They cautioned that a deal has not yet been finalized and negotiations could still fall apart.

    MidOcean Partners and Bushnell declined to comment, while ATK did not respond to a request for comment.

    Bushnell hired Morgan Stanley and Robert W. Baird to shop the company, other people familiar with the matter told Reuters in February.

    Founded in 1948, Overland Park, Kansas-based Bushnell makes accessories such as binoculars, telescopes, night vision equipment and GPS devices for sports like hunting and fishing. Its brands include Butler Creek, Final Approach, Hoppe’s, Millett, Night Optics, Primos, Simmons, Stoney Point, Tasco and Uncle Mike’s.

    - See more at: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/08/05/breaking-news-atk-buy-bushnell/#sthash.4juvJT6g.dpuf
     
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  13. p35bhp55

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    You and I must have different search engines, mine has an ATK site that claims Bushnell as one of theirs. http://www.atk.com/business-groups/atk-sporting/
    It's in the orange print under the headline with all their other companies. They have a phone number if you would like to call and correct them.

    BTW back when I had AETECs they were listed as a product on the Meade site, I did talk to their customer service and they were happy to tell me they were going to charge me half the retail price of the scope plus shipping to fix my reticles. I had about 4 of these scopes and they all failed within a day of coming out of the box. if you have good luck with them that's great I will avoid them like the plague.
     
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  14. bean1

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    I actually already have both of these red dots from previous rifles. Now I have S&W M&P 15-22 and a M&P 15. Was trying to decide which sight to use on each gun of the the two?


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  15. e43jimmy409

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    I have the sightmarkon one of my ar's I have no complaints with it. Kills cardboard like a dream

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  16. ccase39

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    Second strykfire. I love mine and it comes with a doubler that works well. I don't think I could have beat it for the price.
     
  17. bean1

    bean1 New Member

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    Jimmy what AR do you have your sightmark on?


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  18. ccase39

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    Btw I am researching a scope as well. I started a thread in the optics section that has several very good suggestions and links for AR optics.
     
  19. sweeper22

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    I don't think anything can touch Vortex's Strikefire or Sparc for the price.

    Don't get me wrong...there are better optics out there. Far better. But they pretty much land in the $350-1K+ range. The quality and performance a $150 Vortex offers vs those options is arguably worth $250-300 by comparison, in my opinion.

    Unless you're willing to pay north of $300, Vortex is awful tough to beat for a red dot.
     
  20. hardluk1

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    Meade did buy the rights to redfield in 2002 and built what is the new redfield line and in 2008 luepold came to be the newest owner of redfield. Mead also bought simmons back around 2006 or 2007 and rebuilt the line . Then bushnell bought simmons in 2008.

    Mead has merged with sunny optics and we may again see a rifle scope with meads lens technology in them.

    Anyone looking for a low to mid range scope that has added green light for when its really needed look at Weavers Kaspa 1.5-6 x32 30mm tube line of scopes. Good practical rangeing reticle and can be bought for 170 buck + or - 10 bucks. retail is high 200.
    http://www.shootingillustrated.com/index.php/25470/ar-optics-on-a-budget/