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Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by primer, Jan 16, 2012.
Looking for .410 for my girl for slug hunting deer. I can't find a h&r that isn't full choked.
I wouldn't worry too much about the choke, but are you looking for a break action or a pump gun? Also, whats the max price your willing to spend?
MOST .410s are full choke. You can still shoot slugs through them. Otherwise there would be a mountain of blown up .410s, and lawyers that sued the ammo companies would be riding in gold plated Rolls- Royces. I have seen a VERY few adjustable choke guns that DID instruct not to shoot slugs if choked down below X, but not a problem for fixed choke guns.
You might want to reconsider your choice of a .410 for deer. They only shoot an 88 grain slug at a modest velocity. In a shotgun I would recommend stepping up to a 20 ga. Just my $.02
One thing to add to that. Double check the game laws in the area you will be hunting. Here in the Land of Confusion ( New York State) the minimum shotgun size for big game is a 20 gauge. I don't know where you live, so I certainly do not know the game laws in your area.
You can drop a deer with a .410 IF you remember it's limitations. However a 20 ga. would be a better all around choice.
I think a 410 with slugs out of a cheap break action, used by a novice hunter, should be illegal for deer hunting. At the least it's unethical. Look for a used bolt action 20 gauge. You can usually find those dirt cheap.
If you don`t think .410`s are tough, check this out.....but don`t try it at home.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAnbDvLIAac]Lost Arts Part 5: The Little .410 Shotgun that Could - YouTube[/ame]
. I talked to several people that took their kids hunting with .410s, all with success. The .410 is the minimum in Ohio where I live. The deer ran the usual 60 yards or so, then dropped. I was thinking .410 because of weight and recoil because my daughter is so small and skinny. I realize she isn't going to drop a 175 lb 12 pointer at 150 yards, I was thinking if she could get a doe or button buck at 50 yards or so would make her the happiest kid around. The look on her face when I told her she couldn't get one with her pink red ryder was heartbreaking.
One guy said he used a h&r single shot, polished the full choke out of it to improved choke, drilled and tapped it for scope mount and put a red dot on it. His daughter could group 4 inches at 50 yards, which is fine for shot placement on a deer.
Look at Rossi. They make a Combo Kit with barrel in 410 and a 2nd barrel in 22LR, or get a Rossi Trifecta which will also give you a 243 rifle barrel. These guns are actually built pretty good and are known to be good shooters. There's also Pawn Shops for something that might work at a better cost and getting a better product, like an older 410 bolt action. Just be aware that they won't be drilled/tapped for any scope bases---if original.
I picked up an H&R Topper delux 20ga for my middle son a few years ago.
I bought it used for $100.00. We started w/ dove loads and he moved up to high brass #5 for crows. It has an improved cylinder, so slugs are no problem. Recoil is pretty light. You can always get her a recoil pad for her shoulder to start.
Cabela's: Cabela's Recoil Pad - Right Hand