Banning the pocketknife?

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  1. sculker

    sculker New Member


    Banning the pocketknife?
    Exclusive: Phil Elmore highlights dangers we face when cutting tools vanish from society
    Posted: March 12, 2009
    1:00 am Eastern

    By Phil Elmore

    When I was a boy, my father carried a Swiss Army knife. It was the biggest knife the company made, in that it had just about every tool imaginable. From pliers to tweezers to a magnifying glass and, yes, a knife blade, that knife was his constant companion. Whenever I got a splinter as a child – and, looking back, it seemed to happen fairly often – my father was there. He and his knife's tweezers (and sometimes the smaller of its two knife blades) would remove the offending irritant with a gruff, "Hold still. It won't hurt." On Christmas mornings, when a package was taped too tightly to be opened by hand, my father and his knife were there.

    My father was the most prepared person I knew. He carried the equivalent of an entire workshop in drawers in his truck, and he was never without that knife, a pen, a notebook and a small penlight. My father was "tactical" before the word was cool, and he knew the value of preventive, pre-emptive technology before I understood what that meant.

    The blade is one of the most fundamental of tools. It is the most basic of technology. In Technocracy we speak often of high-tech, cutting-edge developments in electronics and related fields, but we sometimes forget what the phrase "cutting-edge" truly means. The cutting edge is perhaps the single most critical technology available to us. It is by chopping, cutting, slicing and otherwise separating raw materials that we derive everything else on which we depend. Without cutting tools, there are no clothes. There are no two-by-fours. There are no circuit boards, no Chevrolets, no photocopiers and no wireless phones. Without the ability to cut, there is nothing available to us technologically. The blade is the most fundamental of separators, dividing humanity and the rest of animal life on Earth.

    There was a time when the average boy, and the man he became, carried a pocket knife as a matter of course. As we have become more urban and less rural, many citizens have lost touch with the need to carry a knife. You see these pacified, civilized, emasculated citizens tearing at vending machine packages of potato chips with their teeth or their car keys. That would be comical, if not a bit sad... except that the stakes are a lot higher than being unable to open a Christmas present or a bag of pretzels. In some cases, the lack of the most basic technology results in the death of a human being.

    (Column continues below) reported Monday that an 82-year-old woman was strangled to death when her scarf and hair became caught in an escalator. According to staff of the Boston Globe, many people simply walked past the ghastly tableau, refusing to get involved. Among the few good Samaritans who desperately tried and failed to free the woman from the escalator was Larry Fitzpatrick. He was quoted as saying, "All we needed was a box cutter, knife, even a nail clipper, but we had nothing available." One of the reasons none of these passers-by had a knife is because Massachusetts, and presumably the city of Boston, have strict laws governing the carry and possession of knives, or certain types of them. They are not alone. Many if not all municipalities have such laws. In some cases, these laws are carryovers from the age of the duel, but in most cases, they are simply the work of invasive governments telling you what you can have in your pocket on a day-to-day basis.

    This cultural trend has serious negative consequences. It is also feeding on itself. The vilification of the pocketknife has been an obvious trend in popular culture for some time now. In 2006, Mark Fritz, in the Wall Street Journal, wrote a hit piece called "Deadly pocketknives become a $1 billion business." The purpose of the article was to demonize the "tactical knife" industry in the United States, portraying the knives sold as the deadly implements of Navy SEALs, and the Walter Mittys purchasing them as dangerous, armed time bombs just hunting for the right McDonalds in which to run amok.

    The drumbeat of "knives are bad, knives are bad" has prompted smug operatives of the police state in the UK to begin trawling social networking sites to find pictures of UK citizens posing with knives. Horrifying and Orwellian as that is, we're not really that far behind – though, fortunately, our citizens still have more courage than do the browbeaten subjects of the UK. A recent bill to ban all pocketknives in Hawaii drew such negative criticism that the state lawmaker who introduced it tried to disavow knowledge of it, claiming he had simply brought the measure to the legislature to "provide a voice for his constituents." The national outcry over that particular bill seems to have stalled it, but the intent – and the sentiment among certain circles of the American population – remain.

    I once saw a child whose shoelaces got caught in an escalator. I was running for that escalator, reaching for my pocket knife, when the boy's parents saw his plight and simply yanked him free. That incident was the first thing that came to mind when I read of that poor woman in Boston. I had a knife the day it happened in front of me ... but many people didn't, and still don't.

    Unless we resist the societal trend to equate knives, and the carry of pocketknives, with thuggery and criminal behavior, we will lose a critical component of what makes us a technologically advanced, fundamentally tool-using species. In an increasingly urban society forever more distant from the mechanics of daily life, it may not seem like such a big deal to forego the carry of a pocketknife. That is, it won't seem like you're missing a critical piece of personal technology – until you watch an elderly woman slowly strangle to death in front of you, as you pluck hopelessly at her scarf like a helpless, shaven primate.

    Banning the pocketknife?
  2. bkt

    bkt New Member

    Yeah, well, when they ban knives in New York State (which could be any minute, now) I'll become a criminal. Same with guns, soda with sugar, trans-fats, yadda, yadda, yadda...

    How in the name of God can people walk by an elderly woman in mortal danger and just ignore her? WTGDF?!! And NO ONE had a knife? SERIOUSLY?! NO ONE WITHIN EARSHOT HAD ANY BLADE THAT COULD HAVE HELPED THAT WOMAN?

    Boston sucks. (Seriously, there were no tourists -- you know, non-pussified-natives -- who had a knife? I've been to Boston a few times and had a knife with me every time.)

  3. sgtdeath66

    sgtdeath66 New Member

    i never leave home with out my trusty crkt
  4. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

    The UK banned all knives ( pocket, leathermen, etc. ) in 11 burroughs around London last month, or the month before, and knife crime WENT UP!

    Shocking to you guys, I know.

    The public is PISSED because it was discovered that a father, a former professional boxer who had immigrated to London legally, was at a bus stop, literally on the way to see his wife at the hospital as she had just given birth to his second son, and he was attacked in an attempted robbery, stabbed in the heart and died - IN ONE OF THE 11 NO KNIFE ZONES!!!!

    Think about that for a minute....
  5. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

    Well. I work for a firm with HQs in Switzerland. So I carry a Swiss Army knife. Real one. With company logo on it. :)

    Among others- and I ain't saying.
  6. dcp1987

    dcp1987 New Member

    i couldn't imagine
    i carry my case knife everywhere
    i was always told that a working man should never be caught without a knife.
    thats sad about the old lady
    im suprised there wasn't a store within ear shot that didn't have a pair of scissors or a box cutter.
    and im not trying to be insensitive
    but how long does a scarf have to be to get tangled in an escelator?
    also i thought most escelators had emergency stop buttons.
  7. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

    I carry my knife everyday. It is like a wallet never leave home without it. To do so would be stupid. You never know when you are going to need a good sharpe knife.

    Oh and the knife ban in the UK banned all knives even kitchen knives. How the hell are you going to prep a meal without cutting something? I want to see that.
  8. BillM

    BillM Well-Known Member Supporter

    Guess I just wouldn't fit in in beantown. Daily wear is a Gerber multitool with a knife blade in it a Bladetech MLEK-Lite clipped to my left front pocket, and a small Schrade Oldtimer two blade for fine work. When I'm a little more dressed up, it's the Schrade,
    a Benchmade Mini Griptilian, and a KelTec P32 in a pocket holster.
    Last edited: Mar 13, 2009
  9. Mark F

    Mark F Active Member Supporter

    You are preaching to the choir here Dude!

    I doubt there's a single member here that doesn't carry a knife & gun...
  10. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member


    Ditto. It's just a natural part of my everyday wear-all.
  11. Franciscomv

    Franciscomv New Member

    I'm a complete knife knut, an entire room in my house is devoted to my knife collection. Knives are a big part of how I make a living as well, since I sell lots of custom knives as well as some production ones at my store.

    Most of the general public seems to think that the average knife user is a punk who'll only carry one as a weapon to attack hard working folks. I deal with that missconception everyday, and I try to do my best to prove them wrong.

    Anyway, I know I'm preaching to the choir like Mark F said, so there's no sense in me ranting on and on about how useful knives and multitools are.

    Check out Knife Rights - Home it's a sort of NRA for knives, it was started by Doug Ritter (you might now him for his colaborations with Benchmade or from his website EQUIPPED TO SURVIVE - Outdoors Gear, Survival Equipment Review & Survival Information).
  12. divinginn

    divinginn Member

    I never leave home without my swiss army knife.
  13. sinzitu

    sinzitu New Member

    Gerber folder, front left pocket. All day, every day.
  14. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

    I have carried a knife all my life. When I moved to FL I found out that there are rules about knives, size, style yada yada. This was pointed out by a fellow (puss) worker when I drug out my Kershaw and employed the assisted open to clean my nails.

    Later I checked into the law and found out that I probably was not in compliance.

    More research showed that the FL CCW license covers knives. That's why it's called a Concealed Carry Weapons license.

    I do not trust a government that does not trust me to carry a gun or knife without violating my privacy, yet doesn't hesitate to send me a bill each April 15th to pay for that distrust!
  15. BILLYBOB44

    BILLYBOB44 Active Member

    You got to be kidding?

    Cane, are you saying you need a CCW to carry a pocket knife in FLA now? Sure glad that wasn't the case in the 70's when I roamed the swamps of SW FLA.:p Hell in 68, at the ripe age of 14, I rode down the street, on the way to the dump, with a Marlin 39A across the handlebars of my bicycle,with my trusty dog in tow HA!!:p