Bank posts sign& I close my account

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by billdeserthills, Apr 23, 2008.

  1. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills New Member

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    So I walk into one of the banks I used to frequent today, one of the management people tells me about their new No Weapons Allowed sign& invites me to go back out to my van and "get rid of my gun". My response:
    "Close my f%$&ing account!" I also let them know that the town's newspaper (the Sonoran News) was gonna be my next stop.
    The newspaper people were as amazed as I was, they took my pic and said they'll write an article about the Parkway Bank in an upcoming edition!
     
  2. Mitya Karamazov

    Mitya Karamazov New Member

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    The 21st century is startin to get on my nerves ,, where did all these over-educated un-informed people come from ? Being a gun owner is kinda like bein a farmer nowadays ,, some people think that Freedom is like food , it just shows up ! was always here before ! will always be here !

    {sigh} makes me tired sometimes.
     

  3. SixthTry

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    Good for you!

    Let people know-make the best statement you possibly can
     
  4. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills New Member

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    Well, for some reason this bank started asking me for a "favor" about 6 months ago. The favor was always the same, they wanted me to stop carrying my gun in the bank. First time "well the gun scares our customers" I told them I don't see any other customers in here today.
    Second time, "well, your gun scares our tellers" I said "Tell them if the gun is in the holster, no reason to be scared." Third time was about 5 months ago, I finally said "look, if I can't carry my gun to protect myself in your bank, I'm gonna have to close my account."
    Seems like they called my bluff today!
     
  5. GDS

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    I don't know where your at, but that could be a problem if its the only bank in town. I'm guessing you are in an open carry state?
    Where I'm at in the state of Misery (MO) I always tote along some kind of lead thrower that can't be seen. All the banks and most of the public establishments I frequent have there " no weapons allowed" signs properly in place and I do what I usually do. Disreguard stupid and make sure I can take care of what needs taking care of should the situation arise.
    Did you close the account? Or were you actually bluffing?
     
  6. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills New Member

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    I'm in Arizona, it's an open carry state and I carry openly & have a concealed backup pretty much 24/7. There are many other banks around me, even though I'm in a fairly small town, there are a lot of wealthy people out here (Cave Creek).
    I definately Closed My Account, and I will be happy to close it again at any other bank that gives me a hard time about carrying my weapon. Way I see it is if an establishment won't respect the Second Amendment they are endangering every person inside their building. Now I can't do open carry in the Post Office, but I guess there is a limit to freedom. Come right down to it, I guess I can always hit the Mail Boxes Etc. place & get a P.O. Box there if the Post Office pisses me off too much!
     
  7. GDS

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    Do public establishments,( banks, post offices , wal-mart, convienience stores, etc..) have any law backing them in your area prohibiting an American from their God given right to self protection?

    "if the Post Office pisses me off too much!" Just curious as to why you have to be pissed off to make it clear to stupid people ?

    If its truly what you believe there should be no anger involved. It is what it is: your an American and you have the right to carry a weapon.
     
  8. bkt

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    A business owner or private property owner may mandate certain things that the government may not, including "no weapons allowed" or limiting speech. We, as free citizens, may choose whether or not to go along with their policies and do business with them or visit them on their property. Think of it this way: the government must allow KKK rallies, but that doesn't mean I must let them hold a rally on my private land.

    In the case of the bank, if enough people closed their accounts because of the no-weapons policy, maybe the policy would change.

    Also, I wonder how many prospective bank robbers will read the sign and abort their plans. Not too many, I bet.
     
  9. opaww

    opaww New Member

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    I do my best to not support any establishment or product that will not support my Second Amendment Rights. The unfortunate thing is there is a lot of non-supporters out there and hard to not buy something from one of them.

    When I found out AT&T gave money to the anti-gun groups I stopped using them as a long distance carrier and went with one who supports gun rights and also donates a portion of their profits to pro-gun groups. I ended up paying less in long distance rates with this new company.
     
  10. cpttango30

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    Here in VA you can not carry is an establishment that has signs marking them as a "GUN FREE ZONE" I mean the no firearms allowed signs. It is a felony in the state for doing so.
     
  11. hillbilly68

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    I did the same as my fellow Kentuckian. When I called the AT&T customer service a few years back and she asked why I was cancelling I told her it was because the company supported anti-gun policies and was actively supporting the effort. She laughed. And then she canceled my account. We can control where we put our resources (for now), we need to have the sack that our comrade from Arizona has showed on this one. The problem is most of us are not by nature ones to make a fuss. The gun owners tend to be the go along and get along crowd, sometimes to our detriment.
     
  12. opaww

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    Gun owners can do a lot, just by not using a product or service that they actually can do without and also just by writing a email or letter to the company regarding why you will not support them. The one universal power is money and if it affects them enough they will change their policy.
     
  13. pioneer461

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    Excellent behavior! Well done! We all need to take this kind of action more often. Tom Gresham (Tom Gresham's Gun Talk radio show http://www.guntalk.com/site.php ) calls on us to take a "no shrug" policy in dealing with these gun banners. Not only take our business elsewhere, but make sure they know WHY.

    Having said all that, what you described is one of the problems with open carry. Sure we have a right to and I have no problem with the exercise of any rights, but with open carry, EVERYONE knows you carry. It tends to make you a target. I prefer concealed carry, but your mileage may vary.

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  14. gnoll

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    that was no bluff and you sir did a stand up thing


    well it is good to here that courage is not far from home


    i am a firm believer in just having a guns every where any time open or not
     
  15. GDS

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    I don't know how to do the quote thing.

    You said, "A business owner or private property owner may mandate certain things that the government may not, including "no weapons allowed" or limiting speech. We, as free citizens, may choose whether or not to go along with their policies and do business with them or visit them on their property. Think of it this way: the government must allow KKK rallies, but that doesn't mean I must let them hold a rally on my private land. "

    I think you may be confusing private property with public places of business.
    If your state has a carry law then any vendor that is open to the public has no right to superced(?) the state law.
     
  16. bkt

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    I don't think that's correct, but if you can cite laws that confirm that, please do. You may very well be right. If you are, that would be bad. At a privately-owned business, the owner should have the right to say what people may do there.

    Where I live, there are laws banning smoking in all businesses including restaurants, bars, bowling alleys, etc. The law has hurt some businesses pretty badly. That's an example of government overstepping its bounds, IMO.

    Don't get me wrong. I think the anti-gun policy at the bank is really foolish. But we all have rights, and that includes those who manage the bank or who run businesses of any sort.
     
  17. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills New Member

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    I do also carry concealed, thing is I like to have a couple of guns on and I find having one in the open reduces the amount of people who are willing to bother me in public. I also noted that the management in the bank were unconcerned with my switchblade, other knives I carry and my can of pepperspray. They have hassled me off and on about the gun for about 6 months. Last time I just told them to close my account if they don't want to welcome me in their bank with my gun. It was just a couple of days ago when the sign went up, and tell you the truth, I never have seen the sign. I just finally had enough of their BS, I bank at four other banks and none of them ever had a problem with my right to protect myself.
     
  18. Zappa

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    As much as the gun laws in Massachusetts suck ass, the only good thing is that you'll never see one of those "No CCW" signs posted here. I guess the liberal weenies that run this state are either ignorant of the fact that a privledged few of us actually do have gun permits (LTC's), or they figure that criminals would just ignore such a sign anyway...............
     
  19. TMCXJ

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    I don't know... I figure that the safest place for my weapon to be is on my person and under my control. But others could make the claim that, not knowing me, that's just my opinion. This from the same bunch that made - and still makes - me go to extraordinary lengths by means of tests and background checks and seemingly limitless petty acts to prove that I am competent, not a threat to myself or others, have no criminal history (and therefore supposedly no criminal TENDENCIES), etc., just to be able to "legally" possess and carry what MY Constitution ALREADY SAYS I CAN POSSESS AND CARRY, then goes around fainting at the sight of me and my guns. gaahhh!!!!!!!! The bane of freedom? The masses that never had to fight for, win, protect or preserve that freedom. Everyone in the so-called free, "civilized" world talks about "getting along," "promoting peace," etc., while most of the rest of the world seems bent on promoting our destruction by any and every means EXCEPT peace. And just like Shake-'N-Bake, "We'll help!" Useful idiots, they were called by our enemies. And they still are - useful idiots, called such by our (and their, though they know not) enemies.

    I know that you're all talking about self-defense in ordinary everyday life. But without those freedoms being actively guaranteed at every level, from the least to the greatest, the integrity of the system protecting any freedom is compromised and the structure for all freedom crumbles. Maybe too slowly to be perceptible, but we've got enough history behind us to know where it's all heading.

    Incrementalism - the Coward's way to victory.
     
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  20. GDS

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    " I don't think that's correct, but if you can cite laws that confirm that, please do. You may very well be right. If you are, that would be bad. At a privately-owned business, the owner should have the right to say what people may do there."

    No laws to cite on that issue. Just common sense.
    I agree with, " a privately-owned business, the owner should have the right to say what people may do there."

    Until the business owner violate's the current law. And if its OK for a business to discriminate against a person who has the legal right to carry a weapon, then why can't that same business owner also discriminate against homosexuals, blacks, women, white men, smokers, Mexicans, Etc..........
    A business that is open to the public has to accept the fact that they will recieve all kinds of customers. therefore they must accept some things that they feel are unacceptable to become part of the community that they are doing business in, to a certain point.

    I will make up signs for retail business owners that say: No Blacks allowed, No Whites allowed, No Women Allowed, No Germans allowed, Etc.... how many people would display one of those signs in a retail business? NONE! Because it violates the law. Discrimination. So why do people think its OK for a business to display a sign that says, No Weapons Allowed! It's discrimination.

    There is a big difference between private property and a private / open to the public business.

    By the way bkt, I own three business's. Not one of them displays any sign restricting anything. My private property has..... well my Private property doesn't have any signs either, I guess the people round about here know the deal.