Ball stuck in barrel....

Discussion in 'Blackpowder & Musket' started by W. C. Quantrill, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. W. C. Quantrill

    W. C. Quantrill New Member

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    A friend of mine got an inexpensive flinter for her daughter, and the daughter short charged it, and stuck the ball half way up the barrel. They used a cheap ball puller, and poked a hole thru the middle of the ball, stripped it out and did not move the ball.

    How would you get that ball out without pulling the breechplug? Will a grease zerk fit the touch hole liner threads? I suggested plugging the hole in the ball with a larger brass screw and then pumping it out with grease.......

    Need some ideas here.. Single, very independent mom with teen daughter
    that shoots..
     
  2. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Bigger puller? Don't they make one that looks like a corkscrew?
     

  3. c3shooter

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    One that looks like a corkscrew is a Worm- used to retrieve patches, not balls. A zerk fitting MAY thread into flash hole liner- but if they have gone all the way thru the ball, grease will squirt out.

    They can try about 2-3 DROPS of JB weld on the ball puller- no more- try to epoxy the ball to the puller. Let set a couple of days VERTICALLY for epoxy to set REALLY good, then heat the area of the ball with a hair dryer IF YOU ARE SURE THERE IS NO UNBURNED CHARGE IN THERE,

    No, the caps were not accidental.
     
  4. W. C. Quantrill

    W. C. Quantrill New Member

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    They tore the center out of the ball with whatever it was that they had. Now I'm wondering if they can plug that hole with a larger brass screw and then push it out with a grease gun........
     
  5. W. C. Quantrill

    W. C. Quantrill New Member

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    They have flushed all the powder out of the barrel with water so far. I will phone her and tell her to JB a sacrificial puller in there. That would probably work.
     
  6. thdrduck

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    If it was mine, I would use a brass rod and mallet to pound the ball back down. This should plug the hole in the ball if it did indeed go all the way through the ball. Then I would take out the hole liner if it has one and drizzle as much primer powder in there as I could, reinstall the plug, prime and fire. If water was used to rinse out the barrel it could complicate things if you can't get the barrel completely dry first.
    I have used this process to remove balls that were loaded without a powder charge. If it does not work the first time, just repeat and try to get more powder in. You may be able to get by using a large hardwood dowel, but a 3/8 inch dia. brass rod works the best (also makes a great unbreakable ram rod).
     
  7. nitestalker

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    Use a screw type ball puller not a patch worm. Just screw the ball puller in to the hole push the ball down to the powder chamber. Use a CO2 Large size ejector with a flash hole attachment. The ejector will push the rod and ball out. Cabelas has the Ball Ejectors.
     
  8. mountainman13

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    It's a ball puller, not a pusher. Drizzle some gun oil down the barrel (helps to lubricate and remove the chance of accidental discharge if there is powder in there) and let it sit overnight. Then use the ball puller (not worm) as stated to pull the ball out.
     
  9. nitestalker

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    WTH don't you know what a CO2 Ball Ejector is? The CO2 Ejector is the most effective and safest way to remove a stuck ball. The Ejector will blow out powder patch or cleaning rod.:rolleyes:
     
  10. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    I know exactly what it is...a high tech tool for people who can't pull a ball the way it has been done for hundreds of years. It may be nice to have but is not necessary.
    Rolleyes
     
  11. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    Ha Are you a gun smith? No milling machine no electric lights or modern tools? Why they got along for 400 years with out those? Are you for real?:rolleyes:
     
  12. mountainman13

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    You're just angry I get paid to pull stuck round balls from people like you and that buying a CO2 sprayer wasn't part of my overhead. Lmfao
     
  13. John_Deer

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    We hunted with spears for thousands of years before the accurate firearm was developed. Yet most of us don't hunt with spears. It is a lot easier to blow a ball out of the barrel in 10 minutes than spend 20 hours trying to pull it out.
     
  14. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    Sorry I only use world class known gun makers for my Flint locks.:)
     
  15. c3shooter

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    Alright my sons- please cease the squabbling- if you read the posts prior to yours, neither the ball puller not the CO2 discharger will work right now- SINCE THE BALL HAS A HOLE ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT. From earlier attempts to pull the ball.

    Normally I would suggest pushing the ball all the way back, and trickle a few grains of powder in thru the flash hole (poke with toothpick) but again, THAT will not work with a ball that no longer seals the bore. The ball puller CAN tear out of the ball, especially if the bore is fouled.
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2013
  16. mountainman13

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    At this point the easiest fix is likely a length of threaded rod. Grind the end to a point and work it into the ball. Thread it through the ball and pull.
     
  17. mountainman13

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    Worst case scenario completely destroying the ball is always an option.
     
  18. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    Bill just send me a PM.
     
  19. paintsplat

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    why not pull the breach plug? then push ball out.
     
  20. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    I tried pulling the breach plug once; next time, i will just go ahead and throw the barrel into the creek and skip the plug struggle.