Background check fee, who gets the money?

Discussion in 'NFA/Class 3 & FFL Discussion' started by okdonk, Jun 17, 2012.

  1. okdonk

    okdonk New Member

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    Happy fathers day folks! I've been wondering for quite some time about this background check fee thingy. I reside in Nevada, and we have to pay $25 background check fee each time we purchase a firearm. Some call it Brady check, FBI name check or NCIS check, or whatever it is. We pay $25, fill up the form, LGS fax it to ATF. An hour later or sometimes less, LGS receive a call back in regards of the decision. So who gets the money? I used to pay those fees before i got my CCW, as my CCW was issued after July'11. So free background check for me since then. I have no regrets paying it before. This is just a pure curiousity question, nothing else. I hope you FFL holders or LGS won't mind my question.
    Thank you
     
  2. Ranger-6

    Ranger-6 New Member

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    Sounds like another scam coming down the pipe.
     

  3. kytowboater

    kytowboater Active Member

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    I never payed for one in KY before my CCDW.....
     
  4. okdonk

    okdonk New Member

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    Yes some states don't require it.
     
  5. kytowboater

    kytowboater Active Member

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    Maybe the shop uses the money to pay for the check??
     
  6. RufusTFirefly

    RufusTFirefly New Member

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    No fee in Arizona. Sounds like a ripoff...
     
  7. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    I charge $20 for a transfer and background check.

    $5 goes to the Florida Departement of Law Enforcement.
    The other $15 goes to me for my expenses (Faxing my FFL for the firearm being transferred, renewal fees for licenses, insurance, phone, etc...)

    Now before someone get riled, I put that $15 into an account and as the renewals come up, they get paid. Every little bit helps.

    That is my situation, other FFL holders have more expenses than I do.
     
  8. okdonk

    okdonk New Member

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    Thats what i thought. Thats reasonable and i said i have no regrets paying it. Law abiding citizen i should say ;)
     
  9. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Here in VA there is a charge of $2-3 for a dealer to do the background check (ours is thru VA state police) That is what the dealer is charged by the state, and charge is passed on to the customer- no sales tax on the charge.
     
  10. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    in Texas they either don't charge a fee for a background check, or if they do, they must just factor it into the price of the gun. not for sure. when i buy one, i fell out the 4473 form, they call it in, 5-15 minutes later i pay for the gun, and that's it.
     
  11. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    I just pay $20 for the transfer fee. I don't know if some of that is for NCIS or not. I know some places around here list a transfer fee, and a NCIS fee separately.
     
  12. FFL01user

    FFL01user New Member

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    That's a load of crap... I'd stay away from any dealer who charges a transfer fee and a fee for the NICS check. I understand some states that do not use the federal system charge a fee but that should be inclusive to the transfer fee. For the states that do use the federal system there is no charge to the dealer. A few minutes on the phone or a few clicks of the mouse and it's done. This is included in the transfer fee.
     
  13. wjnfirearms

    wjnfirearms New Member

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    Pa. is a "point of contact" state and runs the insta checks. It's a control thing. They charge $2 per check and an additional $3 surcharge for taxable sales which does not include FTF transfers for private sales. The PSP gets the $2 and surcharge for their services. The NICS does not charge for the service for those states that went the Federal route. Any fees beyond that stays with the dealer doing the transfer.

    What I don't understand from the OP is why anything has to be faxed to ATF. The only forms that we have to send to ATF is the multiple sale of handguns form. We have a second form that has to be filled out for handgun sales, but this only goes to the PSP and the other tax related forms that pertain to special sales circumstances may go the Fed. The 4473 stays with the FFL until he closes up business for good. Federal regulations don't vary from state to state. Only the individual state laws do that. Maybe we can get a bit of clarification here as I'm confused.
     
  14. FFL01user

    FFL01user New Member

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    I don't get that either. And an hour wait? Background checks shouldn't take but a few minutes. The OP is certainly a non licensee. I suspect he's being told things by his FFL that just 'aint so. Some FFL's keep things a big mystery when they "go behind the curtain" to make the call or go online.
     
  15. cmhill

    cmhill New Member

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    No fee here in georgia either, however some stores here will charge a small fee, most likely to deter people from wasting their time if they arent a serious buyer. consider the fact that by the time youve handed them the form looked over it call it in and recieve an answer you've spent about 10 min or so on it if you have a few non serious buyers just wanting to do the paperwork add it up over the period of a year that could be alot of employee payroll hours tied up on no sales
     
  16. fireguy

    fireguy New Member

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    I've never paid for anything but the cost of the gun and sales tax here in KS.
     
  17. okdonk

    okdonk New Member

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    I am not an FFL holder and i didn't say i was. Well that's how it is in Nevada. Some other states maybe charge less or even nothing for background check fee. Maybe i was wrong, maybe not fax, it could be the FFL call the ATF about the purchaser information and get notified whether is a approval or a rejection.
     
  18. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    My FFL dealer doesnt figure in a fee for a new purchase from him however the transfer he charges me $7 if I have one sent to him . I would gladly pay $20 to help keep him in business , He treats me well has better than great prices and I figure he has to pay for his FFL every yr. $25 is not out of line I have heard up to $40 which I think is a bit on the greedy side but they have to put food on the table also . :D
    My stuff never goes thru on the phone call , Too high profile I guess. LOL JK . I do work in the chemical industry and I have to be finger printed every so often , maybe Im on a list of quick checks before approval
     
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2012
  19. pagj17

    pagj17 New Member

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    Psh you think 40 is greedy? Most dealersim in So Cal got to around 100 for interstate transfers.
     
  20. okdonk

    okdonk New Member

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    Thats super freakin greedy!