Back pain issues

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by MobileMarine, Nov 11, 2011.

  1. MobileMarine

    MobileMarine New Member

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    OK this has been going on since april 11 . My lower back , right side and all the way down my leg has been giving major non stop issues . MRI reveled a disk bulge on l3 l4 and bad arthritis in the facet joints but the back doc doesnt think thats whats causing this much hell . I have gone threw about 6 different injections of all sorts - PT - Tens unit - ultrasound therapy - swift kick in the ass . He has one more diagnostic treatment he can do called a disc o gram I think and he says its very painfull and will be out for about a week . Im holding on that one due to business and the co pay for that is high . Supposedly Im on some hardcore extended release narcs but damn if I can tell it . I have tried the following with little or no help
    Kadian
    Opana
    Fentynal patch '' worked but wont stick ''
    And now Im on 150mg of Nucenta & 7.5 percs and some how I function normal .
    I have not been cut on yet and I hear mixed stories about getting cut . My problem is they dont know whats wrong to decide if they need to cut or not .

    IM 265lb carrying alot of atv wrecks , hardcore boat rides almost daily , and alot of redneck demolition derby with junk cars but have tuned it down the past few years , I got sneaky feeling it has caught up to me
     
  2. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Dang! And here i am complaining about having to go to the chiroprator once a month for my back.

    I'd be real cautious about sharing what hardcore painkillers i might have around; they have some sketchy fans.
     

  3. ellis36

    ellis36 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Damn!! My sympathies! I had a taste of that exact same thing a few years ago. Mine slowly got better after a month or so but I had the same diagnosis. 'We don't see anything on the x-ray.' 'A disc bulge is probably pressing on the sciatic nerve.' The worse pain I ever endured. Never let up. All the advice I ever got was 'DO NOT let them cut on you! It will get better.' And it did for me. However, six months plus is a long time! Have you consulted with a chiropractor or a Sports Injuries specialist? (Just asking!)
     
  4. Jpyle

    Jpyle New Member

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    Don't let anyone cut you until there are no alternatives and the diagnosis is confirmed by 2 specialists. Generalized lower back pain radiating down the leg can be spinal, muscular, kidney related, a blood clot in the leg, knee or foot related. In the old song...the knee bone's connected to the ankle bone...tells the tale. A change in how you walk due to a foot problem could stress your knee, change your hip rotation and cause what feels like back pain.
     
  5. dunerunner

    dunerunner New Member

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    I feel for ya Mobile. Sounds like sciatic nerve. I had a friend with sciatica and he was no fun to be around, never could find any relief and finally relied on the prescription drugs and a good Cabernet Savignon for a little comfort.

    There is always acupuncture!:rolleyes:
     
  6. Vikingdad

    Vikingdad New Member

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    MobileMarine,
    Six months ago I was in the same boat. I was looking at spinal fusion from S1 (Sacrum) up to L3 (Lumbar). I have had injections (marginal improvement) but largely just endure the pain. On a daily basis I was a level 5 or higher pain on a scale of 1-10. This started with a serious injury suffered in a sledding accident when I was 7 years old. It has gotten worse with age and my being a mechanic for over 20 years exacerbated the issue.

    Back in August I was introduced to Essential Oils by a company called doTERRA. I started out putting some oils on my back and the pain level dropped almost immediately. The relief lasted all ay long. That night I started taking some supplements and I have been taking them daily ever since then. Today I am pain free.:D No $hit. All because of rubbing some oil on my back. I honestly thought this stuff was a bunch of hocus-pocus but I kid you not this stuff works! These days I only take the supplements (like vitamins) on a daily basis and only occasionally apply the topical oils when I am going to be straining my back. Take a look at this video. This guy has a different but similar story to mine (by the way, putting the Deep Blue on the soles of your feet does make the pain in you r back go away!) PM me if you are interested and I can get you some more info.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XtokB0u2og]doTERRA Deep Blue -- Shawn Pierson shares his experience how Deep Blue reduced his back pain - YouTube[/ame]
     
  7. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    FWIW, and it is not going to cost a lot- go see an Osteopath. A D.O. is a physcian that has also had training in back manipulation. Unlike a Chiropractor, (thats D.C.) he has been thru a full med school, and is licensed to do more than the DC.
     
  8. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    I've been dealing with back issues for about 9 years. I had the disco gram and yeah it's painful but it did find one of my problems. I have degenerative disc disease in my entire lumbar region, three tears on 3 different discs, nerve issue and no disc in L5-S1. I decided to get surgery on L5-S1 and it was minimal evasive and I was supposed to be back running within 3 months. That was 3 years ago in 08 and it's been worse. I did 8 months of PT after my surgery but they said they couldn't help me any more. I'm currently on 120 mg of extended release morphine, 1200mg of a nerve med and 4 15mg of oxy a day and I'm still in pain. My advice is get a second opinion and be absolutely sure surgery is imperative. I was in pain before surgery but I'm in more pain post surgery. No other back doc wants to touch my back since in their opinion I have a 90 percent chance of staying the same or getting worse if I tried another surgery. If you do take the surgery I hope it works, I'm not a doc this has just been my experience and if I had to do it all over again I wouldn't have done the operation. Everyone is different though and I wish you the best.
     
  9. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    ive got degenerative discs. been through one surgery about 7 years ago. before surgery i was so bad i couldnt walk more than 5 steps without collapsing. not from pain but from completly losing control of my left side from the waist down.

    ive had a hard time with weight gain due to back pain issues. surgery let me walk again but the pain is still there. ive been gradually losing weight and its hard. but the more i lose the more active i get.

    basically i cut out massive ammounts of soda and candy
     
  10. Vikingdad

    Vikingdad New Member

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    I don't have a weight issue (I'm 6' 3" and weigh 175lbs) but you are absolutely right. If you are carrying too much weight that is going to screw up your back even worse. Smoking and alcohol will too. I used to drink a lot to soften the pain but I have quit drinking recently and I have never felt better.
     
  11. Vikingdad

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    If I rolled out of bed and tried to stand up without sitting on the edge of the bed loosening things up and getting the blood flowing for a few minutes every morning, I would fall on my face. That was up until a few months ago..... now I get up without thinking about it and no trouble at all.
     
  12. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I agree here. I have slight scoliosis of my spine and it has cause knee, ankle and foot pain on my right side. I kind of walk 'funny'.

    I would do surgery only as a last resort. I have seen some gone bad and I have seen some with very little improvement. I'd try pretty much anything before I let anyone do surgery on me.

    Can I ask how old you are? In July, I slipped and twisted my knee pretty badly. I was off work for a week. When x-rays were done, I was diagnosed with moderate osteoarthritis in my knees, elbows and right thumb. It explained a lot of my pains. When I was upset about it, the Doc told me pretty much anyone, after a certain age, will have some degree of osteoarthritis.

    DANG!!! 6'3" and 175 pounds?
     
  13. Vikingdad

    Vikingdad New Member

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    Yup. I've actually gained quite a bit of weight since I turned 35. I used to weigh 145. Regardless of what I did I couldn't gain weight to save my life. I worked out with weights , ate like a horse and on and on. I was in great shape, got stronger but still weighed 145 for years. Then my metabolism changed and I put on 30 pounds since then. At least I look normal now! They used to call me the Albino Ethiopian Refugee in high school!:eek:
     
  14. Bizdaddy

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    Sciatica was my first thought. My wife had it when she was pregnant with our kid and she was miserable. She was raised by treehuggin hippies and did the acupuncture thing and she said it helped but I sure as hell never heard a difference from the groaning.
     
  15. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    I've been diagnosed with degenerative disc disease. Did the shots (had 6 different sessions), discography (2 days of missed work), had a fusion don on L5 and S1 (28 days of missed work), Tims therapy, sciatic nerve extension exercises, chiropractors (one screwed my back up worse), and a chair that hangs me up-side down, etc...

    Have a running script for loritab, tramadol, flexiril, ib-profen.

    Currently going through the application process of getting disability. VA says it is not service-connected, although I have documents dating back to '74 showing back problems.

    The only relief I get is with a back support when at work, and a place to stretch out when home.

    Good luck to you and choose your options carefully.
     
  16. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I'll bet. There is a pharmacist here where I work. He's very tall and very, VERY thin. Almost painfully thin. One time when I worked day shift, I was behind him in the cafeteria line. He had a tray HEAPED with food, biscuits and gravy, eggs, cereal, yogurt, english muffin, milk, oatmeal. Sometimes if a department is really busy, one person will go get breakfast or lunch for everyone and bring it back. So I said, "You guys must be busy since you're bringing breakfast back for everyone." He kind of grinned and said, "No, this is all mine." Then we both just started laughing. I still see him on occasion and he always is walking around with a candy bar, a sandwich, a pop, whatever.

    What makes it worse, I am the very opposite of him body structure wise. :(
    Life ain't fair.
     
  17. Vikingdad

    Vikingdad New Member

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    One thing I noticed in my life is that people will be quick to make a comment if you are "too thin", as I am, when they would hold their tongue is someone is "under-tall". My sons both have the same body structure and we are constantly asked all of the same questions and they make the same comments as I was when I was younger.:mad::mad:
     
  18. vincent

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    Dang!!! I feel right at home with all you broken down fogies!!! I've been dealing with my condition since age 13. Jpyle is spot on...DON'T LET THEM CUT YA!!! If you do, at best you'll go under the knife every few years and nobody wants that. The chiropractor worked for me but not for all people. Drugs just mask the symptoms not fix the cause. There is some really good advice here so figure out exactly what the problem is and get a 2nd and 3rd opinion/confirmation.
     
  19. Vikingdad

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  20. vincent

    vincent New Member

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