Back Online With My Big 8

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by bullet, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. bullet

    bullet New Member

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    I just could not take it anymore not having my 8mm Rem Mag up and running so I decided to do some work and if I messed it up Lance was going to get the chance to straighten it out.

    First: I did a little more sanding work on my full stock bedding I attempted with my wood stock. I was able to get everything really snug.

    Second: I did a little more lapping of the muzzle bore area trying not to destroy the crown and final muzzle area as I remove a good deal of the rust pits.

    Third: I decided to change scopes using a Redfield with Accu-Trac and also used Talley one piece rings.

    Fourth: Since I am only hunting hogs and deer right now I decided to use IMR4350 instead of IMR7828 and Rem 9 1/2M primers, behind a 220gr SBT so I could lower my velocities to 2800fps or a little above matching to a "T" the Accu-Trac on a 4-12x40mm Redfield still giving me 3945ft pounds of energy at muzzle and 2033ft pounds at 500yds, with a 2.1 inch high sight-in at 100yds and as I said matching the Accu-Trac marks on my scope.

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    Up And Running (not a target rifle but good enough for hunting)

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  2. JSStryker

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    Nice looking rifle!
     

  3. CA357

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  4. bullet

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    Thanks, taking it to the field for the first time this Monday and then the following week.
     
  5. canebrake

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    Great lookin' stick bullet!

    You have encouraged me to get my 8x57mm Mauser up and running.

    I enjoy your posts and look forward to your harvest report when you finally fire this sweetheart in anger.

    Keep us posted.

    cane
     
  6. bullet

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    I have decided to back off my max load of IMR7828 and drop one grain which will give me around 2950-2970fps and this I all ready know is a very accurate load and this means that I only sight in at 2.0" at 100 and that put me exactly on the Acuu-Trac settings and give me a good balance between the 2842fps (IMR4350 load) and the 3009fps (IMR7828 max load) and is actually more accurate than the 3009fps load. This will give me 4252ft pounds of energy at muzzle and still 2121ft pounds at 500yds. Lots of power and lots of reach especially with the Accu-Trac. I will fire sight in rounds tomorrow morning early before the wind gets above 12 mph.
     
  7. bullet

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    Reduced Max load by one grain, 220gr SBT, 13ft extreme spread, 5 Deviation, group size 1.197"

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  8. bigdaddy573

    bigdaddy573 New Member

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    This ain't good your starting to make me want one a gun shop I go to has a 8mm rem mag rem 700 cdl for a 800 bucks but I'm scared of the recoil it puts out lol
     
  9. bullet

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    It will kick like a 340wby with no break, but that said, I like to shoot this 8mm Rem Mag better than my 340Wby Mark V because the recoil pad is better than the Mark V. If you are shy of recoil you might want to note the following:

    Well, lets put the Big 8 in perspective when it comes to recoil. But first, this 8mm Rem Mag of mine feels better and is easier on me due to the recoil pad than my 340Wby Mark V. Now that said, here is the data.

    Cartridge:.8mm Remington magnum
    Firearm: Remington 700 BDL
    Load and Firearm Info:

    Bullet Dia (in): 0.323
    Case Length (in): 2.850
    Case Volume (gr H2O): 93.5
    Muzzle velocity (ft/sec): 3009
    Bullet Wt (gr): 220
    Charge Weight (gr): 83
    Barrel Length (in): 24
    Firearm Weight (lb): 8.20
    Free recoil energy is 42.7 ft-lb. (57.9 Joule)

    FACTOIDS:
    Free recoil velocity is estimated to be 18 ft/sec. (5.6 m/sec)
    (This is equivalent to dropping the 8.20 lb gun from a height of 5 feet.)
    The free recoil volocity is gained in only 0.15 in (3.8 mm) of travel
    Recoil impulse is 4.7 lbf-sec (20.8 Newton-sec)
    Powder gases generate about 37 percent of the total recoil impulse & velocity



    Cartridge:.340 Weatherby
    Firearm: Weatherby Mark V
    Load and Firearm Info:

    Bullet Dia (in): 0.338
    Case Length (in): 2.825
    Case Volume (gr H2O): 93.5
    Muzzle velocity (ft/sec): 3035
    Bullet Wt (gr): 225
    Charge Weight (gr): 83.7
    Barrel Length (in): 26
    Firearm Weight (lb): 8.50
    Free recoil energy is 42.1 ft-lb. (57.1 Joule)

    FACTOIDS:
    Free recoil velocity is estimated to be 18 ft/sec. (5.4 m/sec)
    (This is equivalent to dropping the 8.50 lb gun from a height of 5 feet.)
    The free recoil volocity is gained in only 0.15 in (3.8 mm) of travel
    Recoil impulse is 4.7 lbf-sec (21 Newton-sec)
    Powder gases generate about 36 percent of the total recoil impulse & velocity

    For long range shooting with the 220gr Seirra SBT my max load at 3009fps with a .520 BC and a SD of .301(remember I only have a 24" barrel), is not bad at all.

    Muzzle energy is 4423ft pounds
    Remain energy of 2,000ft pounds out to 614yds

    Zero is 255yds
    -6" 333yds
     
  10. bigdaddy573

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    Is it comparable to a 31/2inch turkey load from a mossberg 835?
     
  11. bullet

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    Not at all, I shoot 3 1/2" loads from my Mossberg and it kicks a lot worse than my 8mm Rem Mag.
     
  12. bigdaddy573

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    I can handle 31/2 not my favorite shells to shoot but they ain't horrible but I might have to look at that one I seen at the gun shop a little closer how much would you say it cost for you to load a basic round
     
  13. bullet

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    No different than loading for most magnums. You use more powder with the big magnums and just depends on what bullet you want to use, but it is a lot cheaper than buying ammo. If you are worried about the cost of reloading the 8mm Rem Mag you don't need to buy that 800.00 rifle. If you can afford the rifle you can afford the initial outlay for reloading. Don't worry about the cost if you want an 8mm Rem mag. You buy a sports car the insurance is more and when you buy a magnum, ammo and loading your own is more than standard rounds.

    I know one thing, you will get a kick out shooting the Big 8 and it is a deadly cartridge on game, up close or far off. Let me know if you get it.
     
  14. bigdaddy573

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    I'm not worry about how much reloading for it is goin to be because I already have all the reloading tools and it will only be used for hunting season and few range days in the summer and the only reason I'm able to get the rifle is because my mom owns me a new deer rifle for get rid of my Belgium made browning bar when I was in california visiting family but I really want one because you never really here about people having them
     
  15. bullet

    bullet New Member

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    I hear yeah. Well I hope you can get it.
     
  16. bullet

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    Well finally got to where I need to be. Reduced my load to get around 2920fps so the Sierra SBT would function better terminally. Average velocity was 2917fps, 12 extreme spread and 5 deviation.

    Fired three fouling rounds that were the rounds I fired yesterday that were 3002fps then fired three of my reduced charges and I can settle for this for hunting the rest of my season. Been a long haul with this rifle but finally here.

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    Will let everyone know if I get something with the 8mm Rem Mag.
     
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