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Discussion in 'Range Report' started by dteed4094, Jan 23, 2010.

  1. dteed4094

    dteed4094 New Member

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    I took my brand new, never fired Stevens 200, .308 to the range today. I set it up on my gun rest with the bolt out and ligned up on a 2" bull 50 yards away through the breach. Then I adjusted the scope accordingly. This worked amazingly well. I droped the first round in the mag and chambered it. I fired the first round and couldn't believe how close it was to dead center. After firing 3 more rounds things went awry. I then shot at 4 rounds at 100 yds. and did everything but improve. Assuming I did my part what could cause this digression. Could it just be the gun needs to be broke in or maybe broken? All 10 shots were fired in about 10 minutes. See targets below.
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  2. skullcrusher

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    Nuttin from nuttin, dteed, but did you check the scope rings for loosening? Sometimes they can jar a bit loose if never fired. Just a suggestion. :)
     

  3. BILLYBOB44

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    +1--The other poss. would be shooter error IMO. Check, tighten all scope mounts, re-test with a steady bench rest position.:)
     
  4. Dillinger

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    First, how were the conditions? Any wind? Any mirage? ( probably not, but these things affect shooting. )

    Well, I don't know a hell of a lot about this rifle, so I read a couple of reviews.

    First, check your scope mount and make sure it is good and tight. Then check your action screws. If they are too tight, that is bad, if they are loose, that is worse.

    It would appear that the barrel is supposed to be free floated from Savage. I would double check that first. Slip a dollar bill under the barrel and between the stock. It should slide freely all the up to, probably, within an inch or two from the front of the action. Also, check the crown and see if it's perfectly smooth and doesn't have some sort of nub or nick or mark that will affect the bullet as it's leaving.

    The barrel is a button rifled styling, which while not the supremely accurate, should DEFINITELY produce better groups than what you got.

    How does your brass look that has been fired? Does it have any unusual dents or wear around the rim? I am wondering about your chamber.

    After that, there are several things we could check in the shop, but at home, with normal tools, it's going to be a bit difficult.

    Please let us know what you find out...

    JD
     
  5. dteed4094

    dteed4094 New Member

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    checked it out

    every thing seems to be tight, nothing irregular on the crown, brass looks new, bore looked a little dirty after ten rounds but not abnormally. I supose it could be shooter err but I shot my mauser after the 308 and shot consistantly. It does have iron sights and the groups were as good as the scoped 308. it was slightly overcast, temp was 36. wind at my back 0-5 mph.
    one of the regulars at the range said it was probably because it was new and needs frequent cleaning while it is being broke in.
    Thanks for the input. Ill be making future range reports.
     
  6. skullcrusher

    skullcrusher New Member

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    If all is cool, then it could be just plain conditioning of the barrel (broken in). Tear down and clean barrel in direction of the bullet until, well, you know this.

    Is the scope mount one or 2 pieces, if I may ask?

    I wanted to add this: get it all cleaned up and update us on the next outing. Lots of members who can get you going in the right direction here. Gurus, if you will.
     
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  7. dteed4094

    dteed4094 New Member

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    magazine

    the gun is loaded from the top (no removable magazine) I have only 10-20% use of my hands so a one piece mount would make it almost impossible to load, Hense it has a 2 piece base. All screws were put in with Loc-tight. When I tightened them, I was more afraid of overtightening than undertightening. I have probably mounted 100 scopes in my time and the only problem I've ever had was a defective scope, but there is always a first time. Im far from thinking I am infailable. I've been married 3 times:D and all 3 of my wives have pointed that out.;)
     
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  8. Txhillbilly

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    What type of ammo are you shooting? Handloads or Factory? What bullet weight?

    Most of the Stevens 200 rifles I've heard about shoot nice groups,but you might need to find what it likes to eat along with breaking the barrel in a little first.

    Like J.D. and the others suggested check the scope mounts & bases,and see if the barrel is free floated from the stock first.
     
  9. dteed4094

    dteed4094 New Member

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    Ammo

    Winchester 150gr PSP. I'm not going to get discouraged yet. Gonna take it to the range and do a shoot and clean to see if that improves it. If it does then I just need to put some rounds through it till it gets used to me,Ha Ha. I think it will straighten out. if not I'll shoot and clean it into submission. The amazing part of the whole thing was getting the first shot, after breach bore sighting, 1/2 inch from zero.
     
  10. Dillinger

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    150 grain?? In .308?? What is the twist rate of that barrel? Because that could be your problem right there. Depending on the twist rate, the bullets might not be stable when they leave the bore, hence the flyers you are seeing.

    I bought a barrel specifically for 168 BTHP for my .308 and even the barrel length was pre-determined to achieve the most accuracy from that round.

    Probably need to check this item next brother. That could be a big part of your problem....

    JD
     
  11. The_Kid

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    It looks to be progressively worse, so it looks like somethings loosening.

    It could be the scope. I've had a well respected scope brand work for 20 shots then go haywire; then I got a replacement with the exact same type that has worked great ever since. Sometimes it happens. If you have another scope, and you don't figure it out next range session, try the other scope.
     
  12. dteed4094

    dteed4094 New Member

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    come on baby lets do the twist

    without measuring, and some research the twist is 1 in 10. That thought never crossed my mind. Barrel is 22".
     
  13. canebrake

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    What is the Stevens 200 reaction to barrel warming?

    Or that twist thingie. [​IMG]
     
  14. dteed4094

    dteed4094 New Member

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    stevie 200

    Don't know. Gonna shoot at intervals to eliminate barrel warming then speed it up to see what point heat starts to effect the groups. Shoot, run bore cleaner patch then oil patch follow with dry patch and repeat as necessary to see if it tightens the group. Gonna have tired, sore arms.
     
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