auto 22 rifle

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing Forum' started by cattivo, May 22, 2008.

  1. cattivo

    cattivo New Member

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    hi gang
    does anyone know how to turn a 22 rifle in to full auto and what sort of 22 is the easiest to do this with and is there a model that makes it easy then most for conversions many thanx
     
  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    You DO realize that you are on a public forum, and asking people to help you committ a Federal Felony punishable by confinement in prison for 10 years, and a fine of $250,000 ? In case no one mentioned it, manufacture of a machinegun (and make no mistake, converting a semi to shoot full auto IS manufacturing a machinegun) requires jumping through some serious legal hoops with the BATFE- and no- despite what you may hear, there is no "easy" means of converting a semi .22 to SAFELY and RELIABLY function as a full auto. Now, let me introduce you to your new roomie- Bubba. I'm sure you will get along just fine.
     

  3. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    Well---assuming the feds haven't scooped you up yet----there were a few
    full auto sears for Ruger 10-22's registered before the 1986 cut-off on new
    machine guns. Can't remember the manufacturer, something like Merrell??
    Expect to pay several thousand for one, plus the $200 NFA tax stamp.

    Or you could become a SOT/manufacturer, but somehow I don't think that's
    what you are interested in.
     
  4. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Save your breath bro, I got a feeling this was a fishing expedition and the person posting already knew the answers and the punishments.

    This was a waste of forum space and the Mods should look into running some IP parity checks and perhaps banning this user.

    This forum is not about commiting federal crimes and assisting in illegal activities. This forum is for the sharing of information between licensed, legal and law abiding citizens.

    JD
     
  5. herp_man2003

    herp_man2003 New Member

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    First off in not sticking up for this fellow but alot of people even a few leo's in my area are under the impression that fully auto 22's and 25's are compleatly legal to own and shoot with out any special types of permits. Just a different point of view for ya. thanks Anthony
     
  6. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    ^ Really?? Because I can't think of a single state I have ever worked in that would consider the backyard conversion of a semi auto firearm of any type into a full auto firing weapon legal. Maybe you could skirt the laws with a compressed air BB gun, but I am pretty sure any .22 or .25 caliber firearm, that being a cartridge firing a projectile that is propelled by gunpowder, is illegal to possess without the appropriate license/tax stamp and background checks.

    But hey - Feel free to do as you think is A-okay in your neck of the woods, it's not like the guys at the A.T.F. aren't renowned for their compassion and understanding. :rolleyes:

    JD
     
  7. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    There are stupid people everywhere. Many end up with an extended stay at Club Fed. There are anti-gunners amongst us that would LOVE to get a detailed answer to a stupid question like that. It would be all over the New York Times the next day. Could be a desk bound ATFer looking for his next big career making score. Could just be a stupid kid that is looking for some "fun" with dad's old .22
     
  8. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Agreed.

    JD
     
  9. h&k bigdaddydieseldan

    h&k bigdaddydieseldan New Member

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    I couldn't agree with JD more just another fishing expedition :eek: :eek: :eek:
     
  10. herp_man2003

    herp_man2003 New Member

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    I was not agreeing with the guy just saying that alot of people think that some how 22's are not included in the law i mean after all its only a 22. No im not that stupid to think that way i prefer to read up on my laws. but there are alot of people who think that way. Just my two cents Anthony
     
  11. ammoguy

    ammoguy New Member

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    22 rifle convred to full auto is illegal

    22 rifle converted to full auto is illegal
    do no do it
    un lless you like to go to jail for many years and pay a real big fine
     
  12. c3shooter

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    Anthony- for anyone that thinks it's "just a 22" I have fired an American 180. 22LR full auto- with a 177 rd mag. WHATARUSH! Cyclic rate of fire is about 50 rounds a SECOND. And yes- that was a legal firearm- property of the US Govt. Ref: trollers- and trolls- agree it may be a waste of bandwidth- but for the anti-gun trollers, and the not-so-bright trolls, it has been my habit to give them a direct answer. They tend to go away. Ranks right up there with the "Does anyone know how to make explosives?" question. Yes, I do know. Do that for a living. No, I won't tell you. Because you are an idiot- or you are a 14 yr old idiot. (pant pant pant pant) Sorry, gents, I feel much better now that I have gotten that out of my system.
     
  13. cattivo

    cattivo New Member

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    Hey

    I Asked A Basic Question Not For You To Commit Any Crime With Me Who The Hell Do You All Think You Are I Dont Even Live In The Usa I Asked A Basic Question That I Was Curious About Get Off Your High Horses If You Dont Want To Answer Dont No One Begged You Did They And Not 1 Of You Actualy Had The Answer To The Question Did You.
    You Just Wanted To Put Your Useless 2 Bob Worth In So Thanks Dad Is Was Worth Just Thats Jack Sh*t
     
  14. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    My My, why don't you tell us how you really feel?:)

    So you are trying to say that in Queensland Australia it is within the law
    for you to convert an Australian Class C weapon into an Australian class
    R weapon?
     
  15. cattivo

    cattivo New Member

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    not at all but i wasnt asking for legal advice i dont even own a 22 to convert if i wanted too but thats not the point when you ask a guy at a mechanics how do i hot the engine up in my car he doesnt reply go away you dont want to do that that is too much power you have an accident and kill someone and go to jail whats the point of freedom of speech if you are too scared to use it!!!
    isnt chat rooms what freedom of speech is all about I ASKED A BASIC STRAIT FORWARD question as im curious about gunsmithing but no body even wanted to ask that they just wanted to asume and get on the high horse
    ......CATTIVO
     
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  16. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    No "high horse" involved. Just a desire to remain on the right side of the bars.
    In the US, an in depth discussion on illegally converting a gun to full auto
    is "conspiracy to commit a crime". Felony. Most of the people on this forum
    are from the US, and NOBODY is going to answer your question.

    Must be different in Australia---you are still walking around. Or maybe the
    authorities just haven't gotten around to scooping you up yet.
     
  17. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    There is no criminal offense in sooping up the engine in your car (undermost circumstances). There are SEVERE consequences in converting a firearm into a machinegun (even if it is a lowely .22).

    If anyone were to be foolish enough to respond to such a question in a public forum such as this, he/she would likely be arrested by one of our wonderful Federal employees sworn to uphold the firearms laws of the land.

    If one were inclined to gather knowlege (for educational purposes only) on the conversion, one would be well advised to consult works by Duncan Long and Ragnar Benson.