Ati mosin nagant sporter kit

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by longunner, Aug 1, 2013.

  1. longunner

    longunner New Member

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    Anyone hear anything good about these? I saw that iraqveteran8888 (he has some great YouTube videos I highly suggest checking him out) did an ATI conversion and since I have two beat up M53s I figure it would be a fun project for one of them. The setup includes a new polymer stock, a bent bolt handle (which is actually pretty ugly if you ask me) and a scope mount. I've never done any drilling and tapping on a rifle before and I think it will be a good learning experience. Ill make sure to keep you guys posted along the way!
     
  2. sputnik1988

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    Agreed on the bolt, I don't know how much the cost, but I would recommend one of the russain sniper bolts over hacking up the one you have. Just me.
     

  3. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Google Jim the bolt man.
     
  4. longunner

    longunner New Member

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    That's impressive. Ill have to look him up if I get another 91/30. The kit has already been ordered lol
     
  5. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    It's never too late, until metal has been removed. He even has a quick turnaround option where you can swap a bolt body with him.

    Personally, just the fact that the bolt handle in the kit is held on with screws is enough to turn me off. I could forgo the screws and weld it on and dress it, and I would be happy with that.
     
  6. longunner

    longunner New Member

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    And loctite, don't forget loctite. It's tough as nails. I've used it on starter mounting bolts on a commercial lawn mower and it hasn't failed me yet. Putting on a couple tac welds would just be some extra insurance I guess.
     
  7. trip286

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    No, I mean completely welding it. Even filling I'm the screw goes with welding. Then dressing the welds to look nice. I believe it's the only way I'd be able to tolerate it myself. I just don't think these look good with screws holding them on. I've known people to use it and they seem to hold up just fine, I just can't stand the way it looks. I feel like a bolt body and handle should look machined from one piece.

    This is all just personal opinion.
     
  8. velofan

    velofan New Member

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    I have several mosin nagants and two are sporters, one with the ATI stock and bolt handle. Wasn't too hard to do and works surprisingly well. The scope mount works too. Fun to shoot and inexpensive. Agree you must remember the Locktite!
     
  9. NC1760

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    Mosin ATI kit...

    The last Mosin I owned I put a Boyd's laminated on (looked great!!) and traded it to a friend who was having a pig problem for a Ben Pearson compound bow (didn't have one and I wanted to start shooting more archery with my son in the back yard).... Didn't do anything to the bolt because I never bothered putting a scope on.
    Anyhoo.... I digress, I put an ATI (the box stated "MADE IN THE USA" also!! That was a nice surprise) on my son's Marlin 795 and painted it with Tester's model spray paint (...held it like champ!!) I'll post some picks when I get back from vacation... I'm thinking about getting another Mosin before too long (believe it or not I kinda miss that hard-kickin' commie bitch)... and a custom stock and scope is definately in the sceme of the build!
    Anyhoo (part2)... Post some pics down the trail when you get it done. I'm excited for anyone who does a build!!
    PS...Thank you for the bolt info too fellas!!
     
  10. longunner

    longunner New Member

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    Here's a couple pictures of the bolts that I'm dealing with. They're pretty ugly and I'm going to try to polish them up before the parts get here. If anyone has any tips or tricks as to make this easier or go any more smooth my ears and eyes will be open. I have a high grit sandpaper to start and I will eventually use a Dremel tool with a polishing wheel and polishing compound to make them really shine.
     

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  11. trip286

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    Shouldn't be too complicated, and sounds like ya got a plan.

    I got lucky with my Mosin. It was pretty much pristine under the Cosmo, but the bore was hideous. Dark, pitted, rifling barely there, and I never once pulled a clean patch through it. But I could hit coke cans at 100 yards ten out of ten shots any day of the week. Never figured that out.
     
  12. longunner

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    Well that's good to hear lol the bores on both my M53s look like that too. One of the front sight posts is bent on one of them, so I haven't really gotten a good reading on its accuracy. The other would drill an 8x8 plate at about 150 yards every time I did my part. The one with the bent sight post was consistently hitting left, so I figure it's got to be about the same.
     
  13. longunner

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    So I got them as good as I'm going to:

    I think today was a good day, I got to shoot and I got to clean up these bolts. What's next is a rebluing of the barrel (if I can find any cold blue locally that is)
     

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  14. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You aren't going to polish out the deep pits, but some fine steel wool and a little elbow grease will bring out some shine.
     
  15. longunner

    longunner New Member

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    Yea I made one of the two actually look pretty good considering how badly pitted they both were. The pits are still there, they just aren't as dark as they were before I started
     
  16. primer1

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    Anyone ever use a torch to bend the bolt? I've heard of this, but never heard from someone that actually did it. The idea is to use a hot hot torch, get it red hot at the bend point, bend it to desired angle, then cool with an air gun.
     
  17. trip286

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    You generally don't want to bend a Mosin bolt handle, just because they're so short. And without a modified or aftermarket stock, there's no place to bend it to. The usual method is to just cut it off altogether and rebuild it as you want it, with a sporter or modified stock.

    I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to such things though. But, I'm all for having one kept as issued, and doing what the hell ever pleases the owner on a second one.
     
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  18. jarhead0881

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    I second this completely. I hate seeing the hex mosins all chopped up and "screwed" around with. Keep a hex mosin completely stock, but sporter the hell outta the dime a dozen round mosins. I'm actually looking for a rough looking round mosin with a decent bore to sporter.
     
  19. longunner

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    I agree wholeheartedly with you if it has some significant historical value I wouldn't do anything to permanently change it. The one I'm sporterizing is a Chinese M53 and I have 2 of them, one that I'm leaving as is. I think it has more value to me as a learning experience than as a historical piece that I have 2 of.
     
  20. jarhead0881

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    Oh yeah!! Those Chinese Mosins would be perfect for sporterizing!! I think everybody should own at least 1 Mosin that is left completely stock. Own a piece of history. Not to mention the caliber is cheap and plentiful. I think it's the longest running caliber still being mass produced if memory serves. Hell there are countries that are still issuing the 7.62x54r rifles. The PKM and Dragunov. Good luck with your new sporter! Give us an update on how she runs!