Dosent matter if were shooting for the SHTF or just home defense. Do you really practice at distants that you might have to shoot at? For myself I have started bringing my pistol targets in much closer and rifle targets have went much farther out. I paced off the clear far shots in my home and found the max might be 15 yds and thats stretching it. It dosent hurt at all to be able to shoot at 25 plus yards with a pistol but anything much further then that I think maybe we should be looking for a long gun. As for the rifle I took a stroll around the property today and paced things off. It didnt matter if it was from the front door across the road and hayfield to the wood line or from the back of the house to the pond I was looking at a max range of a 150 yds. Most of us I bet can tear the center out of a target off hand at 50 yds. But truthfully how often do you shoot off hand at 150 yds plus standing off hand. When you go into the prone you loose a lot of visibilty to possible targets. Just my 2 cents and am curious to see what other input members have.