Assorted BP Pistols

Discussion in 'Blackpowder & Musket' started by RL357Mag, Aug 13, 2009.

  1. RL357Mag

    RL357Mag New Member

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    These are the majority of my collection from 29+ years. All except for the 1st, 2nd, & 4th revolvers from the top were kits. Of the long guns, the T/C New Englander in the middle was not a kit. All of these guns, rifles & pistols, shoot accurately and would rival any centerfire gun in lethality, the rifles up to 150yds, and the .36 and .45 cal. pistols from 25 - 50 yds., particularly the top most revolver which is the Ruger Old Army, while not a true replica, it is built on a BlackHawk frame, has adjustable target sights, and is the strongest BP revolver ever made. All the other revolvers are .36 cal. Colt replica's except for the 3rd, which is a Confederate Spiller & Burr brass frame, and the small spur triggered Pocket Remington on the bottom. which is a .32. The most expensive guns were the Ruger Old Army which cost me $125 in 1986 and the Colt 1861 Navy which my Dad bought me at a Florida gun shop for $120 in 1984. Today the Ruger will run as high as a new Blackhawk and the Colt 1861 will fetch over $300. The bottom rifle cost me $75 in kit form at Service Merchandise in 1988 and was my primary deer rifle for the 10 years that I lived in a "shotgun only" county. It will hit a beer can at 100 yds. with a 325 gr. conical bullet all day long. The top rifle is also a CVA Mountain Rifle kit in .58 cal. and throws a 585gr. conical bullet at over 1800fps..
     

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  2. markerdown

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    Nice collection of smoke wagons !

    An 1858 remington (cabelas) just arrived at my house yesterday. :D I'm still waitin for my Lyman GPR to arrive. I have a walker and 1860 army I bought in the early '80s from EMF. They're imports but it's been so long, I don't recall from where. Now I got my eye on a Uberti 3rd model dragoon (next).

    Just have to wait till the weather cools off a bit to go shootin'........markerdown
     

  3. Hawg

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    Nice guns RL. Most of my pistols, smokeless and bp were stolen by my son in law and not recovered yet. Prolly never will be. I had some originals once upon a time but sold them to fund other guns. All I have now as far as pistols are these.

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    This one is an old Rigarmi-Remington Beals I bought new when I was 12 and believe me it has been through more chit than an original war gun. I recently defarbed it and antiqued it. Guess it wasn't good enough for my sil.

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    I have this CVA Colonial pistol I bought as a kit back in the late 70's and never finished. I messed up the hammer and lock. I recently bought a new lock but still haven't finished it. It won't ever look good as my inletting skills then were even worse than they are now.

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    I've got an old twister like yours but the grips are made out of an old mouse trap and show my lack of wood working skills even further but I can't remember where the pic of it is so you'll just have to take my word on it.
     
  4. Hawg

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    In rifles I have a repro .58 Enfield and an original Tower .577 Enfield.

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    I also have a period correct Hawken. .54

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  5. Hawg

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    Found the pic of the twister. It had been in my moms attic for a long time and got a lil rusty. The frame was never blued. That's the way the factory builds came.
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    Almost forgot I've got this original 1840ish Ancion SXS 12 gauge. I need to take some better pics of it.

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  6. skullcrusher

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    Nice Hawg. This is not the first time you mentioned your sil stealing the guns. You do have the law on him, do you not? I hope so.
     
  7. Hawg

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    His name is on the police report as a suspect. It's one of those deals where I know it was him but can't prove it. It's a long story.
     
  8. RL357Mag

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    Cool deal Marker! One gun I ALWAYS wanted was a Walker. If it mis-fires all you have to do is wield it like a club!:D
    I always wanted the GPR or Trade Rifle also - For many years Lyman and T/C made the highest quality non-replica rifles on the planet!
     
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  10. Hawg

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    I think I gave 39.00 for that colonial kit at Otascos.
    Yeah the Ancion is very shootable. It's had some work done on it in the past and could use a little now but it's in pretty good shape for it's age.
     
  11. markerdown

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    The walker is a horse pistol! It takes a bit getting use to but the repro's retained the original flaws: loading lever always drops (no keeper) after firing a round, caps often blow off due to recoil blast and jam cylinder rotation.

    The 3rd model dragoon was supposed to correct this from what I have read.

    Yeah I've been watching the price slowly creep up on the 1858 remingtons so when cabelas had them on sale, with a checkered grips to boot, I ordered one. Same with the GPR, I always wanted one. Finally said , screw it I'm not gettin any younger and ordered one :D..........markerdown
     
  12. TXnorton

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    Black powder is about all I shoot anymore.

    I went to the range today to shoot my friend's new .54 cal flintlock (Pedersoli/Cabellas Blue Ridge), it is definately on my have to have list. I also shot my Pedersoli .54 Rocky Mountain Hawken. Great fun.

    I just ordered my .44 LaPage muzzleloading dueling pistol today.

    I have, and regularly shoot, my (Uberti) Walker-Colt - Literally a BLAST at 50 grains of 3Fg!

    Markerdown - the loading lever seldom drops with a 50 grain load. It certainly will at a full 60 grains! Agree with you on the spent caps - they can jam up the cylinder. But the Walker-Colt has a great Texas history connection.

    I also shoot BP Cartridges in my (Pedersoli) Sharps 1874 replica and my (Uberti) Model P .45 Long Colt.
     
  13. RL357Mag

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    I've had caps jam the action of just about every revolver I own. A way to stop that is to pinch them slightly before placing them on the nipples.
     
  14. Hawg

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    You won't need to pinch them with good fitting caps. Might need to change the nipples. One way to help keep from getting cap jams with Colt style revolvers is to raise the muzzle slightly and tilt it a tad to the right as you cock it. You still get one hung up in the safety slot in the hammer once in awhile but if you don't use the safety you can fill the notch in with silicone.
     
  15. markerdown

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    Yeah, I tried pinching the caps it worked on my others but not on the walker. Don't get me wrong, it's my favorite bp revolver. I'm shooting 55gr of 3F, I'll try dropping down to 50gr and see what happens. I don't recall the mfg of mine, I bought it back in 1980. It has the case hardend frame. Someone was telling me of a mod to grind the load lever spring to keep the lever up during firing. I have to do some more research on that.

    I had a POS el cheapo import brass frame .36 1851 navy. IMHO that one pointed the best compared to the walker and 1860 army. But it was junk, not even fit to be a wall hanger after several outings.

    I'm lookin seriously at the uberti 3rd model dragoon for my next purchase. :)..............markerdown
     
  16. RL357Mag

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    It's strange that Colt never put a holder under the barrel for the Walker loading lever. If memory serves me correctly it is kinda pointy on the end and just hangs out in mid air.
    Use a rubber band...:D
    I had a Western Arms 5" .44 Sheriffs revolver that was brass framed. It shot out of timing and when I went to manually index the cylinder to the next loaded chamber it went off and caused a chain fire - apparently a cap had fallen off and lodged between the frame and the cylinder and discharged when I rotated it. A .454 ball ripped past my thumb and I drove 20 miles to the nearest emergency room thinking the ball was still inside my thumb ( thumb swelled to twice the size, was covered in powder residue, and was bleeding like a sieve). Naturally they called the cops since it was a "shooting" accident. When I got the gun back from the Sheriff's dept. after two weeks, I drove to the nearest bridge and dropped it over the side - now it sleeps with the fish...:D The Remington styled brass frames aren't too bad, but the open-top Colt's stretch over time.
     
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  17. TXnorton

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    My new BP toy arrived today. I'll be out of town this week-end, so I won't get to shoot it until next week. Pedersoli repica 1830-40's LePage 44 cal dueling pistol.
     

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  18. Hawg

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    They do have a catch, it's just at the opposite end and poorly designed.

    Either is fine with proper loads. Over load either one in a brass frame and there's going to be problems.
     
  19. RL357Mag

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    THAT is effing BEAUTIFUL!!! How much?
     
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