Arrrrr ...2Gen Dodge 4wd Front Ends Suck!

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by markerdown, Nov 2, 2009.

  1. markerdown

    markerdown New Member

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    Just call me swammi because it takes magic to keep this pig 1500 ram 4x4 going down the road. The steering is loose as a goose despite new moog upper/lower ball joints, a thuren trac bar, new steering box, borgeson steering shaft, DSS steering brace, new shocks, all upgraded new moog 2500 1 ton steering, new steering stab and new sway bar bushings. Oh yeah, throw in new BFG All terraines too. 3" of steering wheel play, and the constant sawing really sucks.

    It's an '01 ext cab off road 1500 ram. Nice truck and it fits my huntin', fishin, dog haulin needs perfectly but the steering suckz. After this weeknd trip, I think it's officially dangerous.

    Anyone else own a ram w/sterring issues and what was you fix.... other than C-4, cash for clunkers and getting a ford!......................markerdown

    oh yeah, the trans grenaded @64k miles too, built ram tough is a crock!
     
  2. OlPainless

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    Is it a solid front axle? My old man had the same problem with his 99.

    Before they switched to bushing connections in 2003, Dodge used some Podunk ball type (kind of like a tie rod end) connector on the frame end of the track bar that wears out quickly and is simply weak and sucky in design. It makes a butt load of annoying noises and allows the front axle to wiggle.

    He swapped to a bushing setup from an 04 and all was well again.
     

  3. mrm14

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    Guy that works for me has 05' 3/4 ton Dodge 4X4 with 5.7 hemi. His tranny went out at about the same mileage, however, it was covered by his warranty. Also, his steering seemed odd to him from just the first year he had it. He ended up getting a new steering box under his warranty after some hell raising. Seems to steer O.K. since then. He had a 96' Dodge PU and he had steering problems with it from time to time over the years as well. I'll ask him the next time I see him what he had done to his 96' to fix the steering. He's looking to trade in his 05' and get a new truck soon and I think I've got him talked into a GMC.
     
  4. markerdown

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    yeah, dodge 4x4 have the solid front axle up front, it's a dana 44 on the 1500s. I already swapped the junk track bar with a heavy duty aftermarket one from thuren. I swapped out steering boxes too. And just about every freakin steering part there is. ...............................markerdown
     
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  5. Mitch_H

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    they make a fix for it, solidsteel.biz i think is the website. My old man did it on his '95 cummins, i believe they make on for the half on as well
     
  6. gorknoids

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    Upper control arms a shizznit on a lot of Ford trucks, too. We have a '96 F150 that's had both changed twice, and the thing never leaves the road. I'm waiting to see how this 2009 XL holds up. It's a completely different truck.
     
  7. markerdown

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    solidsteel.biz is where I got the DSS brace from. it's already on my pig, helped a little but it's really not designed for off road use. I'm so disgusted with this truck and lousy dodge engineering and support. My next truck is gonna be an 85-90 4 runner, 22R motor, 5 spd with a/c The new ford raptor looks impressive, but I ain't gonna fork out that kinda cash for a vehicle. i'm done buyin' new!...............markerdown
     
  8. markerdown

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    Yup, there are 2. One on the top of the box that puts pressure on the worm gear and the other is the thrust adjustment where the steering shaft connects to the box. Adjusted them both.

    It's the same old saginaw steering box that has been around for decades, just made for dodge. I think the boxs are just junk. There is a company called PSC that makes re-man boxes for off road but the problem is they were having warranty issues because the cores were junk. They stopped selling the re-man boxes. That was my next move. ....................markerdown
     
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  9. cpttango30

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    What else do you expect from a Dodge?

    Should've bought a CHEVY or a FORD. My ford was 30 years old when I got it and it ran like a dream all I needed to do was repalce the valve stem seals and run some 20w50 oil in it to keep the pressure up. Other than that and tires it was the best running vehicle I ever had.
     
  10. markerdown

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    Why did I buy it? Because it was cheap back in '01. 24K out the door. The GMC was 31K and the chevy was 29K, both had the Z71/Z80 pkgs and that wasn't the OTD price. 01 fords at that time couldn't measure up to the dodges with the off road pkg or the GMs with the Z71/Z80

    What gets me is f'in dodge knows about these issues on all their 2 gen rams 4x4s and wouldn't do a recall to fix. Same with thir trans and intake plenum gasket........................markerdown
     
  11. yesicarry

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    M- My
    O- old
    P- piece
    A- aint
    R- runnin'

    Learned years ago about Mopar's..

    I know, I'm gonna take a rash of hell for this one..
     
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  13. spittinfire

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    This is the truth!! I'm a Ford guy myself and I belive tango likes Chevy but both are tons better then a Dodge. I've got 280k on my Ranger, my parents have 260k on a 97 Explorer, my dad's last truck was still going when he sold it at 250k. I could list plenty of others that I know personally who have similar results from Ford trucks. None of them got anything more then regular maintainence and wear items.
     
  14. Gojubrian

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    Dodge, hecho en mexico
     
  15. markerdown

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    This was the first new dodge truck I bought....and my last!

    Personally, I think all truck quaility went downhill when it went from a workin mans/outdoorsman vehicle to a plush fad to drive a huge 4wd behemoth, heck most folks drivin em' can't spell 4wd no less engage it.

    And don't even get me strated on the fuzznutz who buys a 4wd truck then lowers it..... WTF????

    I got one more adjustment to do on the steering box and a re-check of all the steering components before I go to plan B. .................markerdown
     
  16. spittinfire

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    Why is it that all the Dodge guys feel the need to put the truck nuts on their trucks? Is it a mopar thing?
     
  17. OlPainless

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    LOL. Honestly, I've never seen those on anything but a Ford. Usually it's on a 350 Super Duty with $1500 worth of empty tool boxes (aside from Starbucks cups) that gets used on the highway commute to haul one guy to his desk job.
     
  18. Gojubrian

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    I saw some on a Honda..........a honda.

    I've known several people with dodge trucks, new and used ones. ALL of them had transmission troubles with relatively low miles.

    Dodge can go pound sand. I'll stick with Toyota,Ford, or Chevy. If you are driving one of those "honda tard trucks" get yourself neutered.
     
  19. Txhillbilly

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    Hey now,I have had a set of trucknutz on my Peterbuilt for longer than I care to remember. It's a Bullhauler thing that just transfered over to pickup trucks.They have been around for years in the trucking industry.

    Back to the thread title,All of the domestic mfg's have been cutting corners on quality parts since the 1970's,and Dodge has really screwed the public with cheap frontend components that wear prematurely,and the aftermarket for them isn't any better for replacements. Most of the front end components only last for 50k-60k and then they are worn out.
    The problem is that all their dumbass book smart computer using engineers have no real world experience with how a vehicle operates on a daily basis.

    Give me a good set of Timken Bearings that I can repack on scheduled maint,and put grease fittings on all moving joints so I can lubricate the damn thing and it will last a lifetime.

    Dodge,Chevy-GMC,and Ford all build junk today,they all have major problems with their products today,and they cost more than some homes cost. But you can't blame them,because the general public just keeps on buying them,and our government jackass's keep bailing them out everytime they are going bankrupt.
     
  20. markerdown

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    Front wheel bearings you say??? HA! They screwed john Q truckowner by making it a one piece hub assy. Can't just swap/repack/inspect bearings, got do the one piece huB @$200 clams per hub... cha-chingggg..... hosed again by muther mopar...........markerdown