arisaka

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by johnfs, May 29, 2013.

  1. johnfs

    johnfs New Member

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    my brother inlaw let me take arisaka rifle the stock is in one piece but it sat in attic from ww2 grease discolered bolt it has some rust on bottom of barrel on the outside inside of barrel looks ok given i looked at some prices 250 it worth more to us because of centimental value i gess taking it apart and dealing with rust and discolering and refinishing stock may be ok?



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  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    NO

    Sorry, did not mean to yell- but NO. No more than you would polish a collector grade silver coin.

    Get us some GOOD pics, in focus, and we can tell you more, but right now...

    STEP AWAY FROM THE SANDPAPER, AND NO ONE GETS HURT!
     

  3. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    It appears to have had the "Chrysanthemum" crest ground off. These rifles were not battle field pick ups. They were rifles surrendered by the Emperor after the war.
    As for clean up what C3 said.:)
     
  4. johnfs

    johnfs New Member

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    ok hope these are better but the thing has brown coating on everything and the stock looks like original finnish is somehow pitted like it melted
     

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    johnfs New Member

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    do you see the brown i would like to shoot it if the gun is only worth 250 why not clean it and the stock feels like sand finnish not supposed to is it?
     
  6. MattShlock

    MattShlock New Member

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    It is taboo.

    But I would probably gently clean it to remove the rust too. Like a paratrooper here that needs #100 grit...
     
  7. johnfs

    johnfs New Member

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    the gun was in attick what 60 yrs wraped in newspaper after it was covered in grease do you guys no of something i can clean the stock with rather than refinishing it some spots have newspaper tha has become one with the finnish
     
  8. 303tom

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  9. DrumJunkie

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    This about covers it. Anything else and you strip away the history along with the old finish. If it had done been sporterised to make it a deer gun or something then I might think different but that one is as it was in the day sans the flower. It might not be worth a mint today but it wont get any cheaper...Unless you refinish the stock or something,....

    Bare in mind guns like that are priced as they are because there are a lot of them.But that changes every day. More and more get "improved", restored, bubba'd. The big thing is you can't get a new one. It's a living piece of history.
     
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  10. c3shooter

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    Re: Metal- Go to the grocery- in Housewares, find a COPPER Chore-boy pot scrubber. Do not get th cheaper copper plated steel. Remove action for stock, removed bolt from action. Wet with light oil, wrap it up (platic bag) let sit for a day. Wet chore-boy with more oil, rub lightly. Gun will take on a coppery hue. Wet with more oil, rub with clean cotton cloth. Coppery color will come off. Will remove dried oil, greease, light rust without hurting metal finish.

    You CAN use gasoline, naptha, white spirit, Coleman lantern fluid- VERY flammable, we will NOT come visit you in burn ward at hospital.

    Re: Wood. Finish sound like it is dead. DO NOT SAND IT. Get some Forby's Refinisher (Lowes, Home Depot, Menards) be careful, is very flammable. Follow directions, use in well ventilated area (outdoors)
     
  11. Trez

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    Do Not sand the stock!! The Japanese used a "lacquer" called Urushi to finish their stocks. Unfortunately its lost to us today, and I dont know where you would be able to get any.. However, while it's called a "lacquer", it's really a distillation of a tree sap from a family of trees related to the Sumac family. And, not the pretty, edible Sumac, but the one we called "poison Sumac". There have been many cases of guys who sand away the original failed finish only to break out in a terrible rash, even inside their mouths as this stuff powders up easily. So, keep that in mind.
     
  12. 303tom

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    Now that you have it all scrubed, let dri, oil & reassembly...................And Oil Everything, even the wood !.............
     
  13. johnfs

    johnfs New Member

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    ok do not want to change gun and or stock in any way used hoppie bore cleaner on bolt last knight it looks like it did the day it was covered with grease ? i understand about history and could care less about value money wise but i want to shoot it to do that i need to clean it. thanks for all the input it is all taken to heart . just used rag and bore cleaner
     

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  14. TimL2952

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    Go back to C3's post. You need something to remove the layer of dried on, crusted grease.

    It sounds like you have a situation similar to what mosin nagants go through, all covered in cosmoline.

    1. Take the gun apart, you can find a tutorial on youtube.
    2. Follow C3's instructions. You may not care about the monetary value of the gun, but if you do care about the history, you should be carfeul how you restore it.
     
  15. johnfs

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    ok got it clean just soap n water worked on stock.{father inlaw told me that he cut down stock on board ship on the way
    home he said everyone did it. metal parts got cleaned with bore cleaner then re blued came out great
     

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    Can`t tell from them pictures !....................
     
  17. KJG67

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    You need to follow the directions provided here to get the cosmoline out of everything, including the inside of the barrel. Otherwise you may very well end up in the hospital after firing the first round due to high pressures with grease in there.

    Tip for soaking the barrel once it's removed from the stock. Buy a 2" PVC pipe and cap one end. Place the barrel in there and pour the mineral spirits down the barrel, which will end up coming out and soaking the outside as well. Let it sit. Just make sure you have the cap on the bottom of the PVC pipe well seated before your pour it in.

    Soak the bolt as well. Small toothbrush the bolt, receiver, etc, swab the barrel, and clean all the cosmoline/grease off before you even think about putting a round in there.