Are there legal silencers or noise suppressors

Discussion in 'NFA/Class 3 & FFL Discussion' started by ccase39, Sep 10, 2013.

  1. ccase39

    ccase39 Member

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    ?? Just wondering. I have seen some of the things that you can put on that look like silencers, but I dont like things just for looks. If I cant have the real thing I don't want it. I was at the range the other day and a guy was shooting some sort of SMG with a suppressor on it. It didnt totally silence it, but it did cut down on the report drastically. I don't know if he was military or had a special permit or what. Looked like he was shooting 45 cal.
     
  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    according to the BATF, anything that suppresses the sound by even one decibel, is considered a silencer/suppressor, and therefor subject to approval and taxing by the BATF.

    yes there are companies that make face silencers for sale for those who want the look, but don't want to pay the price. some states, they are not even legal to own, so some people buy the fake ones.
     

  3. clr8ter

    clr8ter New Member

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    Federal Law says they ARE legal to have.....with a $200 tax stamp, and lots of paperwork and waiting. But some states restrict them. Not sure about LA.
     
  4. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    They are called supressors and they are legal under Federal law. You just have to file a Form 1, pay $200 and wait about 4 months to take possession
     
  5. TruggieTex

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    Hey Axxe, Woody, and Robo...

    While we were running wheel guns at the end of the range, a guy had a .22 semi with a suppressor at the 50 yds...
    Did y'all see/hear that?
    Was my first experience with that sound.
     
  6. hmh

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    4 months is optimistic
     
  7. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    didn't hear a thing! must have been a good suppressor!:D
     
  8. Car54

    Car54 New Member

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    I filed Jan 10, and still waiting.
     
  9. TruggieTex

    TruggieTex New Member

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    I had my ears on or I may not have heard it;)
    Was weird! But no bang!
     
  10. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    Yes they are legal. It appears that they are legal in LA.
    Whether you go trust or individual is up to you, either way
    figure on 8 months minimum for the paperwork to get
    through ATF.
     
  11. clr8ter

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    From everything I've read, a trust is DEFINITELY the way to go. Also the more expensive option, if done right, and that's why I have not done it.
     
  12. purehavoc

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    I have heard one before , he was shooting subsonic .22s all I could hear was the action of the gun when I had my muffs off . Sounds pretty neat
     
  13. hmh

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    A trust is the best was to purchase any class 3 item. Were .22 suppressors shine is out of a rifle with subsonic ammunition. My paperwork took 7 months to clear. It is worth it. The shop I bought mine from set up the trust and didn't charge any extra. With a trust you do not own it the trust owns it and the founding members of the trust can add or remove people as they see fit.
     
  14. clr8ter

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    The people who run the shop you bought your suppressors from are also lawyers?
     
  15. hmh

    hmh New Member

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    No but one of the co owners is a notary
     
  16. clr8ter

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    Pretty shaky.....A legal thing like that is nothing to fool around with. Particularly when the BATF is involved.:eek:
     
  17. emo

    emo Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Check out these comparison videos. Shows noise reduction for several brands.
    Part 1 - [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_AXHihPvBc&p=23C183EE4DF7A84A&playnext=1&index=42[/ame]

    Part 2 - [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KcFPEKWptw&feature=related[/ame]
     
  18. msup752

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    I see this a lot. If the gun shop provides a customer with a tool such as a template or Quicken and the customer fills in the blanks, the customer is creating their own trust and the shop is not acting as an attorney. But hey, I'm not an attorney either.

    Suppressors are great. If you can afford to tie up your money for a year waiting for the impossibly slow federal government to give you permission to own one then go for it. I like mine and am waiting on the last one. I still have at least 6 months to go.
     
  19. TexasInfidel

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    Here in Tx there are attourneys that specialize in assisting in the process of getting the trust, and it speeds up the process significantly...
     
  20. clr8ter

    clr8ter New Member

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    That's not my point. From everything I've gathered, making your own legal documents is not the best way to go. Particularly for something like this that will come under great scrutiny by a govt. agency who is that zealous. In the same vein, I've also gathered that just writing your will down on a piece of paper will probably not hold water, either.
    Texas Infidel is right, there are attorneys who specialize in such things. The one in NH charges $6-800 to do an NFA Trust. But i bet it would hold up better than anything you could do yourself.