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Discussion in 'Glock Forum' started by glock219, Jul 31, 2012.
Some say 9mm has more recoil, & some say 40
.40 has more. Especially in a sub compact. 9mm will never have more recoil. Thread done.
Oh and .40 has more recoil than .45acp also.
I disagree, my 1911 and the XD45 my friend has have ALWAYS had a more recoil than my Beretta 96 or his XD40.
40 S&W does have harder recoil than a 9mm, but not a ton, both are very manageable.
Felt recoil is also different for different people, it depends on several variables, shoot both and decide for yourself.
I'll agree u put it better than me. But in my opinion. .40 is def more than 9mm and more snappier than .45. Should've put it that way. Sorry. .45 is more manageable than .40 and 9mm is more manageable than .40.
Out of curiosity, what kind of .40 and .45 are you shooting?
Glock 21 and glock 23 and smith .40. Full. Oh and springer TRP .45.
9mm's= berettaM9, Sig P226, XDm9. All full sIze
Like I said, felt recoil varies from person to person, kind of odd that the 23 recoils more than the 21 though.
I wouldn't say it's more of a recoil but a snappiness. The .40 is def more snappy than .45.
When your talking about felt recoil, which is all anyone really cares about, there are several factors that come into play:
Recoil pulse - this is how the actual energy is distributed into the hand.
Hold - The way the shooter holds his firearm affects how the pulse is interpreted.
Firearm design - The height of the barrel over the arm centerline affects how much "whip" is perceived; The lower the barrel, the easier for the body to absorb the recoil pulse in a straight line. As an example, Chiappa Firearms changed the barrel on a .357 revolver from the 12 o'clock position to th 6 o'clock position, thereby greatly reducing the difference in barrel height that revolver shooters generally have to compensate for. The Chiappa revolver is reported to have greatly reduced felt recoil.
Stance - The body absorbs recoil differently depending on arm position, shoulder position, stance and posture. Even locking or unlocking elbows can affect recoil perception.
Ammunition - All elements of ammunition affect recoil. Small vs large primer, slow vs fast powder, size of bullet (differences of 1/10,000 of an inch can change resistance of force), if the bullet is crimped in the case, if the bullet is lead or jacketed (resistance against the barrel), different types of rifling will resist differently, etc.
And all of these have an effect in a wide array of varying degrees. All of this to say that felt recoil is a very personal thing and very hard to quantify scientifically. The best thing to do is "Try before you buy" on any new gun, But you must also realize that if you have a gun that is perfect in every way but only slightly uncomfortable, there are ways to change the recoil on your firearm: change grips, change barrel, change ammo, and others. Felt recoil is probably the most subjective part of shooting sports there ever was!
Can you explain to me why this is? Is it the grains in the powder?
I am so silly that I though recoil was proportional to the amount of gunpowder one could pack into a cartridge case, and the weight of the bullet to be launched. Go figure...
Also the weight of the gun and comfort of the grip. I think what is happening here's an example of comparing apples to oranges, (Comparing a lightweight .40 with a short grip, to heavier .45 with a larger grip frame, like a 1911 type).
Has anyone mentioned the weight of the firearm yet?
Sorry 75370. You beat me to the punch. That should have been the first thing that was said.
I have a 5906 that doesn't recoil hardly at all yet my PT111 rises and flips and kicks pretty heavily.
The .40 has noticeably more recoil than a 9mm IMO. Both operate at the same pressures if I'm not mistaken, but you push a bigger chunk of lead out of the .40. Also .40 generally operates about 14,000psi higher than a .45.
You have to consider that the 23 has a shorter barrel than the 21 so the snappyness would make sense
HAHAHA this is my kind of thread as I am a recoil junkie. I feel the .40 is snappy compared to 9mm/.40/.45 in a pistol, it just wants to lift the muzzle up more for me. The 9mm is going to be the lightest of the felt recoils, then the .40 but the snap is a down side for many, then the .45 which hits hard but the recoil is very easily managed so second shot on target is easily very quick. The .45 gives you the percussion that you can feel deep down in your bones and a ear to ear grin that you just can't knock off with a sledge hammer.
All of this can be changed if you play with the barrel length or type of gun used or even the ammo used, but if you fire all of these out of relatively the same style gun with the same barrel length and somewhat similar ammo you should see what I am saying.