Are .22 Rifles considered "high powered rifles"?

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by ccase39, Apr 14, 2014.

  1. ccase39

    ccase39 Member

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    I ask because I was watching one of those crime documentaries on Investigation Discovery and they said something to the effect of "The killer shot the victim in the head at 100yds with a high powered rifle with the accuracy of a sniper.
    First of all hitting someone in the head at 100yds should be easy for anyone remotely familiar with a firearm. Later I found out that the bullet that killed the victim was a .22 cal.
    I hate the inaccuracies in the media when it comes to firearms. One would think that the Discovery channel would pay more attention to the facts.
     
  2. Anna_Purna

    Anna_Purna New Member

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    a 22 cal as in a 223, etc, or a 22lr?
     

  3. John_Deer

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    A 22 Hornet is certainly a high powered rifle.

    In real world conditions it is hard to make a 100 yard shot with a 22 LR. At 100 yards the bullet drops over six inches, wind drift is virtually incalculable. A 10 mph wind will push a 22 LR bullet over 10" at 100 yards. If you get a 12. 13 mph gust wind drift jumps to over 16". A head or tail wind will make a 22 LR totally unpredictable at 100 yards.

    These ballistics are with a rifle shooting a CCI mini mag.

    A 22 wmr can make 100 yard shots because it has almost twice the velocity of a 22 LR and a much better designed bullet.
     
  4. ccase39

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    They were talking about a 22lr to clarify.


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  5. Mercator

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    It's all blurred lines when it comes to the media usage (see "assault rifle"), but in short, NO. In competition lingo, high powered means centerfire, rifle caliber. "High powered" is casually used in the press to convey the drama.
     
  6. DrFootball

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    Except for a few 22LR loads the do push the bullet at over 1500 fps, ( and one at 1750)..
    It Can be done, but it wouldn't be my First choice...


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  7. John_Deer

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    What is weird about the 22 LR is most sub sonic loads do a better job of bucking the wind than the ultra high velocity loads.

    http://www.gunsmoke.com/guns/1022/22drift_cross.html
     
  8. robocop10mm

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    IMHO the media will use any label that "sells". In my world, a .22 caliber rifle (in any form) is most certainly NOT a high powered rifle. These mental midgets on TV and in the newspapers have ZERO clue what they are talking about. They are precisely why we have terms like "Saturday Nght Special", "Cop Killer Bullets" (no cop hs been killed by one), "Assault Rifle", "Assault Pistol" (what in the world is that?), "Ghost Gun" and any number of other non-sensical labels attached to a variety of guns.
     
  9. DrFootball

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    One of our smaller local papers had a guy who was very liberal writing an OP-Ed column. Guess who got fired from that paper?...one of his last pieces was how an 18 y.o. Could go buy a Brick of 22's at Wal-Mart. I asked him where he lived on Twitter, cause he sure as heck wasn't buying it at MY Wally...


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  10. Franklin1995

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    I completely disagree with you. Watch the video below to see why ;)

    [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uG-Kiy3AT4[/ame]
     
  11. clr8ter

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    Yeah, so? I have made some insanely lucky shots, too. First, he only did it once, and second, I didn't see him measure the 500 yards, did you? (That really didn't look like 1500 feet to me...)
     
  12. AIKIJUTSU

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    The target was about 18" X 18". So if there was no wind, that's an OK shot, but who knows if it hit point of aim. But a woodsman IS a good gun.
    So far as "high powered rifle" is concerned, WTF? It is not the rifle that has "high power", it is the ammo. But the media would call a .22 short "high powered" if it would help them put a person who used it to shame. The sad part is that the lib "reporters" who do that are making fools of themselves by assuming that the general public is as naïve and uninformed as they are. This when 2/3 of the public either owns guns or has served in the military service where they learn to use guns.
     
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    Maybe so, but the ammo? Is it realistically capable of that? I'd like to see that shot made 4 times out of 10, and the distance measured off, (proven), then we'll talk.
     
  14. Overkill0084

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    A 100 yard head shot with a .22 LR is certainly doable by anyone with a decent level of ability with a decent rifle. Anyone who's shot Small Bore Rifle Silhouette would probably agree. That said, there's nothing "High Power" about it.
     
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  15. AIKIJUTSU

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    Amen. The lib media thinks people are too stupid to know the difference between "high powered" and plain Jane. They must carefully select uneducated "reporters" who will support their agenda, even if they are told to crank out false info. Their comments about "a 30-magazine clip" says it all.
     
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  16. Franklin1995

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    This is a long video, but he hits it a few times with a rifle. No he doesn't prove that it's 500 yards, but I believe him. He's a very popular guy on youtube and has made some incredible shots very consistently. If he says 500 yards, it's 500 yards. Anyways, no I don't think that .22 is high powered. I'm just simply sharing a impressive video.

    [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dn-bqyMkfs[/ame]
     
  17. therewolf

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    The media is not out to inform us. It is out to sell more soap, hard-on pills

    and dog food than three other local stations. So they step up the drama

    and sensationalism intentionally. Every word is specifically scripted to

    make more ignorant people tune in, and watch commercials. They know

    the difference, and they shout "FIRE!", in a crowded theater, on purpose.
     
  18. bigjim

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    A 100 yard shot with a 22LR can be done very consistently and accurately. I shoot my 10/22 at that range all the time (yes I use a scope) so what's the big deal on this.

    I have never head of a "Low Power Rifle" so I guess they did take a liberty on using the term "High Power Rifle", but I doubt that they have ever shot any kind of rifle at all.

    Jim
     
  19. dteed4094

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    They are automatically high powered to the media if they look tactical. There are air rifles with more power than 22lr. Are they lethal, yes. Are they lethal at 500 yds, doubtful, but possibly. Rim fire are traditionally not HP. Its a relative misleading term. They do go bang.
     
  20. longunner

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    If it has a pistol grip or a telescoping stock it's high powered. Don't you guys know anything? I thought the people here actually knew a thing or two about guns :rolleyes: