AR or AK

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by truckie98, Oct 20, 2012.

  1. truckie98

    truckie98 New Member

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    Ok so I'm in the market for an AR but I'm also considering an AK in light of a recent discussion I've had with a guy I work with I've shot several Ar's but have only held the AK. I'm looking for some opinions on this.
     
  2. rhyno13

    rhyno13 New Member

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    Personally I prefer the AR.
     

  3. lbwar15

    lbwar15 New Member

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    I'm with you on this. But do what a lot of people do save and get both.
     
  4. drvsafe

    drvsafe New Member

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    I went with a PWS MK114, which is kind of like the best of both; AK inspired internals (long stroke piston) AR platform. check them out: www.primaryweapons.com
     
  5. AgentTikki

    AgentTikki New Member

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    the funniest description for this age old question i've seen is:

    AR is the prom queen, higher maintenance, but damn ain't she worth it.
    AK is the school slut, not much to look at, but she's a sure thing.

    My personal opinion? Why choose between the two, get them both! :D
     
  6. slog

    slog New Member

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    AK is somewhat limited in range and accuracy. The barrel whip is insane. Most AK's that you will have an option of buying were imported as demilled parts kits from other countries surplus supplies, and remanufactured here in the US by companies like Century International Arms. The ATF put a stop to that, so the AK supply appears to be dying off. You can still find them, but they're getting more expensive every year. About 10 years ago I got my Yugo AK and Hungarian AMD65 both for around $350. Now they're past $600 even $800, and your selection is narrow among heavily used rifles.

    This is all without considering that replacing the barrel will require a hydraulic press. The barrel of an AK is pressed into the front trunnion block. The AR is designed as a modular rifle from the ground up, with a free floating barrel attached via a barrel nut. It's fairly easy to swap barrels with the correct tools. Also, when you're holding the AR, the pressure you're supporting the hand guard with is not being transferred to the barrel, but to the upper receiver.

    The gas system of the AR provides a smooth operation with less recoil since the bolt assembly is spread from the center out to the rear with an expanding gas pulse. The AK directly connects the bolt carrier to a huge piston that is violently slammed to the back of the receiver.

    AR has a huge hand up on the AK. I don't care how reliable it is. I want accuracy, low weight, low recoil, modular platform.
     
  7. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    OP, what are you looking to do with it/ them? for the most part the AR will shoot more accurate. both are fun. both are reliable. comes down to what you like... personally i vote for the AR
     
  8. SSGN_Doc

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    Kind of depends on what you want to do with the gun.

    If I had to pick only one, I'd probably go with the AR because of the modularity. You could have one lower receiver and multiple uppers for different uses such as hunting, competition, defense, and even in different calibers.

    If you want basics. Go for the AK.

    As far as a lot of Internet opinions go keep this in mind. AKs are generally more accurate, and ARs are generally more reliable than most folks give them credit for.

    My idea of a good compromise is the Sig 556.
     
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  9. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    The AKs are good weapons if you get a quality one as are the ARs.
    However my preference is the AR. Due to as was said the optional equipment available for them. The ease of mounting optics on and also having a co-witness application using bothe iron sights and optics. In addition faster to reload due to the fact you do not have to maneuver the magazine is a certain way rocking it back and locking it in to position. The AR Mag simple goes straight in and locks. There are also some fine triggers that you can buy for the AR that just retrofits into most receivers.

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  10. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    There are more US made parts now and US Barrels than there used to be for AKs a few years ago. The ATF didn't put a stop to the importation of all the parts kits but they did restrict importation of barrels. Again US companies have stepped in to make barrels now. So there are a lot of new AKs being made here still.

    Also, not all ARs have floated barrels. If using standard GI handguard a or many drop in replacement hand guards, pressure can still be exerted on the barrel through a sling or a rest.

    These are just details. I tend to agree with the rest if your post.
     
  11. orangello

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    Are you planning on hunting with it? Are you planning on hunting small things that are hard to get closer than 100 yards to, or are you planning on hunting things that get up-close and dangerous? Far off and smaller would be easier hit with the AR, but up-close and dangerous would be more AK-suitable with the extra reliability and heavier projectile. Now, if you are out to kill big animals from far off, see about an AR in a larger caliber than .223.

    If you are just looking for some fun plinking, the AK has cheaper ammo available.

    ALL JUST MY OPINION.

    Me? I bought an SKS for a slight increase in accuracy over the budget AK's while maintaining a decently heavy projectile and keeping cheapo ammo available for plinking fun.
     
  12. slog

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    Huh, I was under the impression they stopped the import of the parts kits since they were "too easily converted to full auto." I knew about all of the regulations concerning a certain number of US-made parts being used for legality. One made from all foreign parts wouldn't be legal, from what I know.
     
  13. Gh0zt36

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    What will you use it for?

    If you want an awesome range rifle that you can shoot out to 600 yards and tacticool the crap out of it and something that will look awesome sitting on a gun rack and you dont mind cleaning it more often? AR hands down .

    If you're looking for a med to short range combat rifle with excellent obsticle penetration for wrol/teotwawki /shft and you might not have the resources to clean it and need it to work if its dropped in sand , dirt whatever . AK all day!1
     
  14. truckie98

    truckie98 New Member

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    Thanks for all the feedback to be more specific I'm looking for a rifle that I can plink with mostly but possibly hunt with if the urge hits. I have plenty of other firearms that I hunt with though. I'm no into all the crazy tac stuff like drop away acogs and all that but would like some decent optics to reach me out to about 100-150 yards.
     
  15. slog

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    For optics the AK can accept a scope with a receiver side mounted rail or a receiver cover rail. The cover moves so the cover-integrated rail is worthless, and side mount is really the only way to go. You won't be able to keep a zero with the cover mount. Some people replace the hand guard with a rail hand guard to mount a red dot or mount to the rear sight, but you're probably lacking the width to mount a scope in these areas.

    AR has much more solid mounting areas, even if you don't go all gun porn on it. You don't even need a flat top upper. As an added benefit, if you want a gun for plinking, there are drop in 22lr conversion adapters that fit inside the upper receiver, filling the chamber and padding to 22lr size, and also changing to blowback. The 22LR drums for AR are fairly cheap and you could do a lot of plinking without having to reload, and it wouldn't cost you a dollar every time you pull the trigger.
     
  16. Gh0zt36

    Gh0zt36 Active Member

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    In that case Id go wit a good chinese or russian SKS iron sights are good out to 300 yards ATLEAST
     
  17. truckie98

    truckie98 New Member

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    The sights might be but my vision on the other hand is another story these days lol
     
  18. Gh0zt36

    Gh0zt36 Active Member

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    I think that's going to be my biggest sorrow of my getting older. My need for glasses and scopes for anything over 20 yards xD. I'm 35 now , so right on the precipice of things beginning to go bad. And already I have a precancerous tumor removed and a cateract surgery on my left eye under my belt and both of those were in the beginning of 2010 so I'm already off to a good start. :cool:
     
  19. jjfuller1

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    so go with the AR, easier to pick optics, very accruate at the ranges you listed!