AR light review (Armytek Predator Pro)

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by Dahamp2003, Sep 30, 2013.

  1. Dahamp2003

    Dahamp2003 New Member

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    Hey, just wanted to do a little review on a light I just bought. First, this thing is BRIGHT. Like spotlight bright. The throw is unbelievable. I had a surefire m900 foregrip weaponlight, and it was definitely made well, and pretty decent brightness at close range, but not far away. This blows that out of the water. Its rated at 760 lumens, waterproof to 2 meters, XP-G2 Cree LED, has strobe, firefly (5 or so lumens for reading) and other lumen modes by twisting the head back and forth. You can even program it. The electronics are made in the USA, everything else in Japan. Very well made. You can see in the pictures how the beam is. BTW the lights in my room are ALL on like its daytime and it looks dark because my phones camera could only focus on the beam because it was so bright. Well worth the money. Just wanted to let people know that may be looking for a light, because sometimes you just dont know until you buy stuff sometimes. Fear not, awesome light.

    Oh yeah, the front glass view the light isnt on, just a reflection of my phone flash.
     

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  2. Dahamp2003

    Dahamp2003 New Member

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    Guess no one likes lights around here. Ill be sure to not review anything else haha gimme a "cool" or something guys. I get 100% of my self confidence from firearmstalk haha
     

  3. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. How was cost? Where did you purchase it. Is there any way to program it for an intermediate brightness of around 100 lumens for indoor use so I don't blind myself?
     
  4. Dahamp2003

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    95 $. And yes, has strobe, three different lumen settings, and a firefly mode thats like 3 or 5 lumens for reading in the dark without a huge signature. I got it from goinggear.com and used Sootch00 as a coupon code to get 10% off and free shipping. You can program it to change up the mode order too. Yeah it will do some damage on your eyes. Treat it like a firearm haha
     
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    Nice light. Good review. And ol' Sootch's discount doesn't hurt either.
     
  7. bluez

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    Can you show us a pic how it looks mounted on your AR?

    This will give us a sense of the size :)

    PS: Thanks for the review :)
     
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    I will as soon as I grab a mount. Im waiting on the one I want to be in stock. As far as size, its the same size as most Surefires. Like the scout or whatever its called. I can take some pics of it beside the rifle though if that will help.
     
  9. AgentTikki

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    That may be a nice light, but I doubt it puts out those numbers.

    I usually see the Cree XP G2 typically being rated at like 300 to 350 lumens which is still very very bright.

    What kind of batteries are you using with it? A lot of manufacturers do pad their numbers.

    Does it get hot if you leave it on for 5+ minutes? How kind of run times are you getting with it? I ask because you can overdrive a XP's output by boosting power consumption but it'll get hot and really drain the batteries fast (inefficient).

    What I see is a deep reflector which is usually indicative of a thrower. Something good for outdoor use. If you want something for indoor use, a floody light would be better. Right around 6:30 they claim that it throws to 400 meters. Um ok. I also the like the smooth contact that won't damage my 18650s. Very thoughtful.

    Overall it does look pretty well made and solid. But I'm not feeling the review/sales pitch.

    Is it compatible with surefire end caps for remote switches?
     
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  10. Dahamp2003

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    1. It may not be 760 lumens. Buts its WAY higher than any surefire ive ever seen. Its basically a spotlight, which is what I want considering I shoot outside at night a lot 100 yards and out.

    2. May not reach 400 meters, but I know it will go around 300, because ive had it that far. Maybe not 400 though. I know it throws, thats why I bought it.

    3. Uses a 18650 or 2 CR123A's. Have no idea on runtime. It says if I remember 1 hour and a half for the maximum brightness. Not sure about hotness. At the amount a battery costs im not wasting it to find out haha. Ill let you know when I use it shooting and its on for extended time.

    4. Have no idea on a surefire tailcap. Wanna send me one to test it? Lol. I do know armytek has tailcaps for it if you want one with a pressure switch.

    5. I dont know if youre talking about sootch00 sounding like a sales pitch or me. If youre talking about me, then I guess I should be in sales? Or maybe not since it sounds "pitchy"? Look, I just know how hard it is to really understand if something is a piece of crap or good online. Sootch00 did me a HUGE favor by reviewing it (whether or not he was just pushing it for compensation), so I just thought I would share. Honestly most of my friends arent really into guns so ive got no one to show my toys off to haha. Ill tell you if craps crap too dont worry. But if youre wanting a light, get one for yourself and post if you disagree with me.
     
  11. SSGN_Doc

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    The other bit of data I would like is how it does when mounted and the gun is fired. Or how it does under shock as far as illumination changes. I had an inexpensive light that illuminated well but would black out momentarily when the gun was fired, indicating that the batteries lost contact under recoil.

    Guess we may have to wait until you get your mount. I'll try to watch for updates.
     
  12. AgentTikki

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    I totally understand your enthusiasm! :D I discovered the awesome Lightsaber like qualities of LED torches a few years ago. Back when I thought the most badass light was a $500 200 lumen Surefire and my dad's trusty old halogen D-cell powered Mag-Bat.

    Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying its a bad light. At a price point of about $100 its certainly lower than most Surefires. As mentioned before, I smelled bs when they touted 670 lumens. I honestly held back against saying anything for a while so I could really watch the review and listen to the reviewer before saying anything. Per the manufacturer's rating, that LED is rated at 488 max lumens ( I looked it up last nite on Cree's website) Its probably most efficient at about 300 to 350 lumens which is why most other lights using that the XP are rated at those levels. People can boost output levels, but at the expense of runtime, heat and overall life. Also I'm not sure what a lifetime repair warranty means, but it sounds like if it breaks they'll fix it for free but you have to pay for the parts.:rolleyes:

    It does seem that the tube is sturdy. The double o-rings are nice. The big spring for the rear battery contact is kinda a put off for me. Batteries mounted longitudinally tend to fail under fire, especially as the spring gets older.

    There's a variety of mounting options, its probably a 1" tube but you should measure it out. A lot of guys I know, use offset scope mounts as a "frugal" way to mount lights onto their rails. The only thing I'd caution is that the reflector looks pretty fat so you could run into clearance issues.

    Please don't take my comments as a personal affront. I'm just trying to look at the light objectively, and separate fact from fiction. When I was referring to sale pitch, I was referring to the video. Unfortunately, I do think that Sootch00 is pitching that product. The discount code might have clued me in. Also he doesn't say anything bad about the light, nor does he compare it to any other models. He doesn't sound unbiased in any way.

    There seems to be a variety of modes you can program but personally I hate having to twist this pull that to change modes.

    In the end, lights are tools. There's lots of different options and choices you get to make when choosing one. Like runtime, max output, variable output, strobe, weight, throw, spill, form factor etc etc. Doc touched upon arguably the most important aspect: does it work under fire? So mount that badboy on your 12 gauge and go shoot a few thousand magnum loads! ;)
     
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  13. Dahamp2003

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    I understand. Ill try to find the video, but ive seen it mounted on a 12 gauge with no flicker. It has an advertised "constant on" feature thats supposed to not flicker and produce steady light under recoil type conditions. I understand the objectivity, no problem. Just wanted to share how pleased I am with it. For 95 $ , this cant be beat IMO. Ill have more info when I use it. May be a couple of weeks though before I get off work and can grab the mount I want
     
  14. Dahamp2003

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    Sorry its been awhile, but finally got my mount (Viking Tactics VTAC FDE mount) and got it put on. Gotta say it's as advertised. No flicker, even under mag dumps and running around, dropping the rifle. It's definitely brighter than all my friends surefires. Some have 200 lumen ones, a couple have 500 lumen ones. The gunsmith/24 year active army ranger at my range who teaches tactical carbine courses was super impressed with it. When he turned it on the first thing he said was DAMN. What kinda light is this?! The weight balances my rifle out perfectly. The muzzle doesn't move at all. And the mount puts it in the perfect position for thumb activation with the AFG. Here's some pics. Any other questions?
     

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