AR complete Uppers

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by Squawk, Dec 15, 2012.

  1. Squawk

    Squawk New Member

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    I'm looking for two uppers. One for target and one for HD/plinking.

    I'm leaning towards the RRA Varmint 20 inch with 1:8 twist for the target. The other I'm looking at is the Sabre Defence Custom 16 inch mid-length with 1:7 twist. This one has a YHM free float installed already. Both are from PK firearms. Just above $600 each.

    Anyone know of any better deals? I'm building the lowers but don't wanna do the uppers.

    I really want the HD upper to have a free float quad rail and the target to have a free float tube with swivel stud for a bipod.

    Is this a little high or a lot high, price wise? And is Sabre Defence good quality?
     
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  2. Sniper03

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    Squawk,
    Both are good choices. You will not find any better than the Rock River Arms A-4 20" Varmint upper. I have had two of them and still have one. They are 1/4 MOA Uppers on a good day when we are having a good day with good accurate ammunition. Both were and the one I presently have is 1:8 twist also. Great selection. And it is a shame Sabre is out of business but that unit it tops also. Not too many of them left out there~Made out of Chrome Molly Vanadium not a better tactical type barrel available. They both are *air gauged barrels. When you get the A-4 Varminter tell PK you need a Rock River Scout Rail or the Rings to mount the scope forward on the flat top for proper eye relief with a good scope. Might check into a Rock River 2 Stage National Match Trigger with PK for your lower build. You will not be sorry.


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  3. 2tone0311

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    Please don't get a saber defense. We started to get them issued to us in the marine corps and they are absolute trash compared to the colts/fn we have around. Pins pop out from the front sight A frame flash hiders become loose. No one that shot on the rifle range with a SB shot expert. This is when we really believed everything is made by the lowest bidder
     
  4. Squawk

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    So you have any recommendations for a midlength gas system upper with free float quad rails?

    I'm sold on the RRA varmint for my target. Thanks Sniper. Anything else I have read said it was top notch. You reaffirmed this for me.
     
  5. Sniper03

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    Sabre built very good rifles regardless of what you hear! I likewise have had serious problems with Colts. There may have been some fixing going on there because they were taking away a large part of Colts contracts. So maybe the rifles were pre-exposed before you got them in the Corp. Tapper Pins just don't fall out! Funny that when they went out of business Colt tried to buy the company. Never had any problems with any of them.
    Oh well opinions are like posterior parts.

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  6. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    Squawk,

    You could also get a RRA Mid they have them and I am sure PK has them he buys a lot from Rock River and other companies as well. Another good source is Hill Top Guns in Colona IL,

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  7. Squawk

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    I looked at those first. What sold me on the Sabre is the YHM Quad Rail already installed.

    Any idea where I can get a mid-length Upper with a Free Float Quad rail? Also like having the iron sights.
     
  8. Quentin

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    I've always heard good things about Sabre as well so am surprised by the negative report. One good thing though, there are a lot of quality duty style uppers out there.
     
  9. 2tone0311

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    Larue Daniel defense lwrc spikes tactical
     
  10. Squawk

    Squawk New Member

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    Larue uppers are way out of my price range. In trying to keep the upper around $600
     
  11. 2tone0311

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    Best quality for low cash I would wait it out for a spikes tactical upper
     
  12. suzychapstick

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    I'm butting in not because I think I know something, but because I'm in question. I looked at this rock river varmint at PK also. It sounds like a sensible buy, but when I read the page about frequently asked questions on PKs site, there is a paragraph about uppers. It says that the upper assemblies don't neccessarily use all the parts from the listed manufacturer, nor do they include all the parts unless specified in descriptiion. It says that the upper is sold under the name of the barrel used.
    Now the varmint RRA upper says it uses the Wilson air guaged barrel. So I'm confused on what manufacturer of parts I'd be getting.
    So it sounds very unscpecified what your getting for 600. If I were to call PK up, they'd spot me as being green, and I could be potential buyer to dump a bunch of junk on for 600. I'd probally be safer buying it from the factory and paying more. I wnt to the rra website, but it has a button called wishlist near most items. I'm assuming that means there out of stock. Anyway I don't mean to jack up this guys thread, but noone is responding to mine, and I was viewing the same varmint upper he is talking about.