AR build

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by longunner, Jun 4, 2012.

  1. longunner

    longunner New Member

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    Hey everyone, i don't really know much about building an AR15. I have skimmed through some of the stickies and I could say I partially understand the parts needed, though I am FAR from an expert, still very much a n00b at this. Correct me if I am wrong but from what I understand you need to have a lower receiver, a trigger assembly, an upper receiver, a barrel, and whichever sights you prefer. I found a website that sells everything you need but a lower receiver, and i wanted to check it out with you guys to see if its a crap deal/incomplete or not even what I am looking for.

    Here's a link http://www.ar15-kits.com/index1.html the one I'm looking at is the fourth down on the right, the M-4 style 16" rifle.
     
  2. Quentin

    Quentin New Member

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    First you need to tell us what you plan to do with the AR and what your budget is. The right rifle for me isn't necessarily right for you. Don't be in a hurry, read and learn before pulling out the credit card.
     

  3. MikeJK

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    ..........withdrawn
     
  4. longunner

    longunner New Member

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    Yea I have plenty of time before I can even think of putting together an AR. At this point it's a distant dream, but I am definitely serious about buying one and I know that building them is a more affordable option than buying them whole. As for my uses I would mainly just use it for target, probably at about 100-200 yards. I also just absolutely love the weapon system I shot it once and fell in love with it. I guess you could say its a SHTF weapon as well. I am not looking for an ultra rugged, throw a handful of dirt in the action, swim a mile and be able to shoot bad guys kind of weapon. Cheaper is better for me, but quality is definitely key. I don't want something that will have a FTF after i put 100 rounds through it.
     
  5. Quentin

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    Look at PSA, I think you'll get a better AR for the money. Also look at BCM if you can save up a little more cash.
     
  6. longunner

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    I think I'm gunna go with DTI for the guts and the upper, and spikes tactical for the stripped lower. The only other question I really have would be about a muzzle brake/flash hider. I know that flash hiders are illegal in New York State, but I'm not sure about the legality of muzzle brakes. Guess I'll ask the folks at my LGS when I go to get my Marlin on the weekend :D
     
  7. MikeJK

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    PWS FSC556 is ban state legal. It works well as comp and does a little flash suppressing as well.

    I personally prefer the BattleComp.

    What made you decide on DTI?
     
  8. longunner

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    I did some googleing and read some reviews and it really seemed to be my best option in terms of affordability and reliability. Here's a link to my future setup

    http://www.del-ton.com/Rifle_Kit_p/rkt100.htm

    Do you have any personal experiences with the brand?
     
  9. longunner

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    Now all i need to do is find some 10rd mags....stupid New York State.......:mad:
     
  10. MikeJK

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    I have not and don't plan to. I have done quite a bit of research and b/w that and what more experienced shooters have shared DTI is just not an option. There are better options out there for the same or slightly more money. Ive come to realize that a few extra dollars can net huge improvements in quality/value.

    If you're going to piece one together, Spikes makes a good mil spec BCG for around $100 as does PSA. AR Performance.com makes a good barrel for right under $200.

    Edit: there is a way to have quality on a budget.
     
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  11. connectegr

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    In my limited experience, my DTI is a well made rifle. I shot 200 rounds last night, again with zero problems. That makes a flawless total of 1200+ rounds, in just under 2 months. I admit, 800 of these rounds were at my nice indoor shoot club. I am not rolling in the dirt or working my way from the surf. I do shoot a lot. If I manage to break something, I will share with the forum.

    I shot 300 rounds (AR) and 100 rounds (pistol) a few weeks ago with some old friends that still use tactical in their job description. My DTI rifle did not have any problems. But, I felt like I just finished the tough mudder.
     
  12. Quentin

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    If you have a DTI that works, great. But someone buying new and on a tight budget should look at PSA, Spikes and even Sionics.
     
  13. connectegr

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    Just giving my $.02. Obviously I cannot guaranty the same results with another build. Most of my friends are using LE issued Colts and they shoot many more rounds than me, so their problems occur more often. I shot a sweet LMT last week ($3000). First 5 rounds inside a quarter at 100 yards. The scope costs more than my DTI setup. And my DTI cannot match that. I am no expert. But, I learned from some very experienced shooters. I enjoy shooting, and can afford to put a lot of lead down range. In my current profession shooting is a hobby and I don't expect my life will depend on my DTI. The Seacamp in my pocket has the lifesaving responsibility.
     
  14. purehavoc

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    I have a couple PSAs and a spikes , my buddy has a DTI and it runs like a champ with what ever he puts thru it , its very accurate @ 100 yards and has run flawless from day one , I dont know the exact round count thru his but Im more than sure he has rougly 2000-2500 rds thru it since Jan . He is a every weekend shooter and I know he shot as many or more than I did last weekend and I spent around 450 rds of steel ammo . I see alot of people knocking on the cheaper ARs but for what reason I cannot find besides them being cheaper priced . I dont hear of many problems with them for all the slamming I see on the forums and not just this one . There is a training group/ carbine class around here and thats all they use in their courses is DTI stuff , from what I hear they have very few issues with there stuff and they do run full auto courses also .

    I have come to the conclusion with the exception of a few manufacturers that most all of the slamming of certain brands is people that have never even touched the one they are slamming or calling out as a cheaply made , unreliable rifle . I do however feel as those people seem to read the forums regularly and see for instance " my brand X is having issues with misfeeds " or FTE , ETC . What you dont read on the forums is My brand X has run 16,000 rds flawless, is very accurate and runs great , People overlook the good for the evil they can bring against brand X . So people make the assumption that because what they read and others have posted that brand X is a POS which is untrue . I have shot several different brands from high end Colts to a low end Bushmaster Carbon 15 and to be honest with you I have not had any of them malfuntion while shooting .
    So take what you will on the forums , I see just as many Colts, BCMs, PSA's and Etc that have issues from accuracy , broken bolts, FTF, FTE , mis-machining , etc mostly on the forums. ALL GUNS WILL HAVE A FAILURE AT SOME POINT IN TIME wether is a big $$$ brand or a low $$$$ brand . They are all fixable .

    There are a lot of brand junkies out there that have sore spots for particular brands , I see it in every forum I go to from archery to cameras, automobiles, electronics, etc . Take what you will from this because everything you read on the forums is just a personal opinion and most of it is personal preference and not personal experience .
    Be happy with what you purchase , have no regrets and dont let the brand bashers get to you
     
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  15. longunner

    longunner New Member

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    It's good to hear some good criticism about DTI. I think its definitley the brand I'm going to go with...I have seen no first hand reviews and at 500 bucks for what I am lookin at seems like a great deal.
     
  16. MikeJK

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    In the end I'd rather see a guy purchase a mediocre AR than none at all.

    I would like to see a shift in concentration from brand of AR to actually shooting.
     
  17. Quentin

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    Can't argue with that. Sadly many people too quickly have it all figured out "what's best" then ignore other opinions. Too much work researching and comparing specs yet they'll watch all the sitcoms on TV. Hopefully they're happy with the brand they buy and spread the good word about ARs to other potential gun buyers. Where the problem is - is when a person aims too low, gets burned then makes it a point to tell everyone they know that ARs suck.

    Sadly that's the case too often and why many of us try to tell the rest of the story when someone asks for "the best AR".
     
  18. longunner

    longunner New Member

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    Thanks for all the info everyone. I'll probably start my build in a month or so....can't wait until its all done and I'll make sure to post pictures for you guys to see :)