AR-7 Survival Rifle

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by Reaper61, Jul 26, 2011.

  1. Reaper61

    Reaper61 New Member

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    I have decided to add a .22 to my list of guns to buy when I get back from Afghanistan and was wondering if anyone here has any experience with the AR-7 Survival Rifle?? It looks like a good design but I was wondering if anyone has shot one before or would recomend another .22 instead.
     
  2. Ploofy

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    I believe for survival situations a .22 revolver is generally more suggested than a rifle. Something small, light weight, that you can easily operate with one hand. You can probably pick up one from any Military Surplus store. I know that a lot of pilots have one.
     
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  3. stalkingbear

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    They are great little rifles for what they are. Henry is the current producer of the AR-7 survival rifle. That means the likelihood of getting a good 1 is better. They used to be very picky on ammo, perhaps Henry has fixed that. Having said that, they are meant to be a last ditch survival/plinker gun. Don't expect gilt edged accuracy.
     
  4. VitSports6

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    I like my Armalite AR-7, It is a tad picky on ammo, It doesn't like hollow point's, But still fun.
    I have heard good things about the Marlin Papoose But I really have no first hand info.
    Best of luck
     
  5. Rmason2008

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    I have the Henry US Survival AR-7 and I think it's a great little gun for what it is. The design is very simple and I've never had any issues with it. It is fun to shoot too.

    Expect to field a few "what is that?" questions as it catches everyone's attention at the range.
     
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  6. hiwall

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    I have one of the Charter arms ones. I just got it to have under the seat in my truck. Perfect for that. Used ones here sell for $100 to $150. If I was to have only one 22 it would be something else.
     
  7. Reaper61

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    Thanks for all the replies and info. I assumed it wasnt the most accurate 22 out there but like the idea of something i can stick in a BOB.
     
  8. JonM

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    if you got a ar15 non-piston gun already cant beat the cmmg 22lr conversion as a survival tool. swap bcg and mag and you got a functional 22lr capable of taking small game. saves a ton of space/weight in your ohsht bag.

    if i was gonna get a dedicated survival rifle i would prolly hunt one of these down and spring for the aow license. or get the non nfa springfield version of the M6 in 22lr/45lc

    M6 Aircrew Survival Weapon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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  9. JonM

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    if your really serious then a ruger 22/45 with silencerco supressor is a no brainer. that setup doesnt require subsonic ammo. the short barrel of the 22/45 threaded version knocks regular 22lr ammo to subsonic. super quiet for hunting without letting people know your there. sound signature is compairable to some air rifles.
     
  10. 1919A4

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    As to the questions about the AR-7, I've owned one for a couple of decades and for what it's supposed to be, it's more than adequate. I recommend them for hiking and bugout preparation.
     
  11. RONSERESURPLUS

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    AR-7, No thanks Been there done that

    Helo all, RON L

    AR-7, Hmm,Been there, Done that, I have owned everyhing from a AR-7 Armilight, Charter arms, Henry, Survival arms! The majority of them needed a lot of work and ammo selction to function well! Most Charters I had to be smoothed in ramp and de-bured inside, the Heny was a Joke the Slieve where the barrle sits ripped out? Yes it was that cheap and that thin? Many 22's are ammo selective and AR-7 are right there with it? Use only Plated ammo, as Lead types of bullets were jam o matic time! I found the AR-7 design not to my Likeing and after Trying a Marlin papoose and a Browning and Norenco Cone of the Browning take down 22 a Lot better option! Sorry Guys, cant go with ya on this one and that's why! You might have your own oopinion and experiences but I have 35 years of messing with AR-7, NO THANKS!
     
  12. Reaper61

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    Thankyou once again for all the advice. After doing more research the AR-7 is off the list, common thread throughout is that it jams a lot. Not ideal for a survival situation if you have to be picky about ammo. So I have now narrowed it down to either the Marlin Papoose or the Ruger 22/45. Both have solid reviews and depending on what model of the Ruger you get similarly priced.
     
  13. RONSERESURPLUS

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    Reaper

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    RON L here

    I hope I didn't detrer your desire to buy one? It's Just that I have owned 12 over the decaded and out of that 2 were functional out of the box with out a lot of extra work? Onthe other hand, Have had 3 Parpoose as well as a Number of Ruber Rifles and Pistols and while I have my own Problems with some of Rugers parts and repair policies I see them as a Safer and better buy! Good Luck and I hope you find what ya like, need and use?
     
  14. Reaper61

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    RON L,
    Your advice was spot on with the majority of what my research turned up, so thankyou for your advice. Everyone needs a good 22 in their collection, plus I need something to teach household 6 what to shoot on. Use camping/range/BOB definatly are the top three. Thanks again for the advice
     
  15. fudo

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    I think that the Marlin Papoose is a better gun than the AR-7. The AR-7 accuracy is...well...hit or miss. mostly miss.
     
  16. RONSERESURPLUS

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    I see a few Better Options!

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    RON L here

    Your very welcome on my comments and I hope what I said helped, I have tried the AR-7, as well as the Marlin Papoose, and the Browning Take down Rifle as well as the China Copy, as I see it, thier are far better options than the AR-7, I love the Concept of the AR-7 and applaude Armilight for the design, but, after them, the execution of that design is well, WANTING? The Papose now can Only be had new in stainless, no longer Blue, but thats not really a Down side as I see it? I like the Case it comes in and yes if it's zipped up and secure it will float, please don't ask me how I know that? LOL Silly things happen when your canoe partner is not as experienced as one would like?
     
  17. Reaper61

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    YIKES!!! Good to know that their product works though.
     
  18. Davo45

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    I've had an Armalite AR-7 and it was ok for plinking, but would never use it for any type of survival situation. I've seen the Marlin Papoose, but have never bought one although I'd like to one day. My choice for a bug out survival gun is a Ruger 10/22 with a Choate full length pistol grip stock. It's the same length as my M-4 with the stock in the #4 position (which happens to be where I generally keep it in when carrying/shooting it). They make a folding stock, but it adds weight to it and only shortens it by around 8".

    I can consistently make head shots on squirrels with a rest at 50 yards but have to be a lot closer with a .22 pistol, so for me a .22 pistol isn't a contender as a bug out survival (putting meat on the table) gun.