AR-15 in New York

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by mustang73, Apr 23, 2009.

  1. mustang73

    mustang73 New Member

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    I'm new to the AR-15 field. I can't find any used AR's on the market and will have to order one. Can anybody tell me which ones are legal in the state of New york for civilians to buy. I see the Colt LE6920 on some of the different websites I've read. Would this be legal for me to purchase if I would be lucky enough to find one? what if any of the colts would be legal? thanks for any help
     
  2. dog2000tj

    dog2000tj New Member

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    Hello Mustang, welcome to the forum. :)


    I just went through the same this past fall. I spent almost 4 months looking and researching before I even settled on what to go after. Then it took almost 2 more months to find what I wanted at reasonable enough prices. Check out the classifieds/vendors on here as well as,

    AR15.Com
    GunBroker.com Online Gun Auction


    What I have found out is to own an AR15 in NY,

    There is a difference in the regulations for Pre-Ban and Post-Ban rifles. A pre-ban rifle is one that was manufactured prior to the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban. A post-ban is one manufactured after the 94' AWB. The major differences are,

    1. Bayonet mounts - pre-ban rifles can have bayonet mounts. Post-ban rifles cannot.
    2. Collapsible/adjustable stocks - pre-ban rifles can have them. Post-ban rifles can have them provided the stock is permanently pinned in a fixed position.
    3. Flash hider - Post-ban rifles must have the flash hider permanently pinned to the barrel.
    4. Magazines - currently in NY you may not purchase magazines with greater than 10 round capacity. You may have magazines of greater capacity provided they were manufactured prior to the 94' AWB. These would need to be stamped by the manufacturer.


    You may also want to check the following links for official information,

    ATF Online - Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
    Firearm Laws for New York
    gunlaws.com / Bloomfield Press
    Official National Rifle Association of America Home Page
    Gun Owners of America


    As for the Colt LE6920 it would not be legal in it's advertised configuration. The stock would need to be pinned and you cannot have the (2) 20 round mags. I can't tell but if it wasn't than the flash hider would also need to be pinned.


    And don't forget to post up on your progress. You may also want to join up as a supporting member - the forum comes with loads of information and support.

    Good luck. :)
     

  3. RL357Mag

    RL357Mag New Member

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    If you are going to buy a NEW AR-15, the dealer or manufacturer will sell you the one that's legal in NY - it's called being "AWB Compliant", and manufacturers selling to NY state residents must comply with NY's fuc%ed-up regulations, like no bayonet lug and no flash suppressor. I ordered a new AR from Rock River Arms last year and it came with only 10 rd. mags, no bayonet lug, and no flash suppressor. On the other hand, I ordered two DPMS LR-308's and they both shipped with two 20 rd. mags (illegal in NY unless manufactured prior to 1994).
     
  4. mustang73

    mustang73 New Member

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    thanks for the replies. This will limit my search. Hopefully I can find something in the next few months
     
  5. bkt

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    A couple things... First, New York lets you have two "evil" features on a semi-auto rifle or shotgun made after 1994, and the features list is this: collapsible or folding stock, pistol grip, detachable magazine, threaded barrel, flash hider, bayonet lug, and a grenade launcher. The two features most folks have on their ARs here in New York are the pistol grip and detachable mag. Bayonet lugs must be ground down, and a muzzle break must be pinned and silver-soldered or your barrel must have nothing attached on the end and it must not be threaded.

    If you get a pre-ban lower (made before September, 1994) you may have any or all of the features above.

    Note: magazines are treated separately from firearms in New York, and there is a ban on all mags that hold more than 10 rounds unless they are pre-ban mags.

    Second, what's legal in some parts of the state is not legal in others. You may not own an AR-15 of any form inside the city of Rochester, for example. There may be similar rules for other cities.
     
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  6. corey823

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    Hi. I too am new to this forum. I am trying to buy an AR on Long Island. The prices are high (nothing worth while less than ($900.00). It seems that it is still cheaper than buying it out-of-state & paying the FFL charges. Even so, it is hard to find a NYS compliant AR online.
    Let me know if you have had any luck.
    I would appreciate any advice.

    Thanks,
    Corey823
     
  7. NY Marksman

    NY Marksman New Member

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    Have you considered a Remington R-15. it is NY compliant.
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  8. RL357Mag

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    Look at the RRA catalog - everything they sell can be had either pre-ban or AWB compliant.
     
  9. OC357

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    I fired one round out of one of those yesterday at the range. I was there testing new houge grips when a guy showed up with one.

    OC
     
  10. NY Marksman

    NY Marksman New Member

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    Sooooooooo how did you like it.
     
  11. OC357

    OC357 New Member

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    Well, I only fired one round, so I don't think that qualifies me to give a critique on it or anything. It felt good and I hit the target. It is a cool rifle in person. There's not much elce I can say about it.

    OC
     
  12. NYconservative

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    <<<<What I have found out is to own an AR15 in NY,

    There is a difference in the regulations for Pre-Ban and Post-Ban rifles. A pre-ban rifle is one that was manufactured prior to the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban. A post-ban is one manufactured after the 94' AWB. The major differences are,


    3. Flash hider - Post-ban rifles must have the flash hider permanently pinned to the barrel.>>>>>>

    Hi - I am new to the forum so forgive me if you already addressed this elsewhere. I also live in NYS and under the same restrictions as you. To the best of my knowledge flash suppressors/hiders are not allowed, permanently attached or not. Can you share with me your source that they are ok if permanently attached? I am considering a Next Generation ar-15 and that is the only way they come. Thanks so much. - Fred
     
  13. Sniper03

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    CAUTION

    Check your local laws also. In NY some of them are even more restrictive than the NY state laws.

    The LAH's still follow the Brady Bill (1994-2004) crap that was to be done away with. Hope they get challenged someday like they were in Chicago recently.
     
  14. NYconservative

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    Thanks but fortunately I don't live in NYC so I don't have to worry about their craziness, just the state's. I am pretty sure that no suppressor is legal, but wanted to explore all the possibilities. - Fred
     
  15. dog2000tj

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    Most AR manufacturer's sell NY compliant rifles. In the case of my STAG it came with a muzzle break permanently pinned to the barrel.

    Stag Arms - Worldwide Leader In AR Manufacturing

    :)
     
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  16. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    NY,

    Suppressors are not illegal in most states as long as you have the Federal Tax Stamp and registration required. And you have them on a 16" barreled rifle or longer. If you were to have an SBR (Short Barreled Rifle) under 16" then more paperwork and another tax stamp. Which would mean 2 tax stamps. One for the SBR and one for the Suppressor. God only knows concerning some states like NY. CA. and the worst state of all for gun control NJ. Especially when it comes to ARs. Even a city jurisdiction sometimes have their own individual laws! Absolutely crazy!
     
  17. Jpyle

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    Suppressors may or may not be illegal in NJ, probably are but I never checked. Moot point however, since threaded barrels are illegal...
     
  18. Sniper03

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    JPYLE,

    Nothing surprises me in NJ. A manufacturer of ARs must have a NJ state firearms dealer to sponsor them if they go there for a weapon show and bring any weapons. Even an LE Trade Show. That is why in the position I was in the company I worked for boycotted there shows due to their stupid laws.
    Kind of like Barrett in California and the 50 BMG Rifles!!!
     
  19. Jpyle

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    Gun shows in NJ are pointless. All you can do is look at the guns since the State Police prohibit any sales from taking place.