AR 15 bumpfire stock

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by fsted2a, Aug 26, 2011.

  1. fsted2a

    fsted2a Active Member

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    Someone has probably already covered this, but I ran across a site that is producing an assembly which freefloats the receivers on the buttstock and pistol grip assembly that helps the user bumpfire the rifle straight.

    Slide Fire SSAR-15 Bump Fire Stock - Ships FREE - $349.95 : Military Gun Supply, SSAR-15, Parts Kits, Surplus Guns, And More!

    Seems to me that is what the Atkins Accelerator did, and the inventer was originally told by the BATFEC that it was ok and didn't turn it into a machine gun until he had already produced a buttload of the devices, then later ruled it a machine gun, and not only told him to quit manufacturing the devices, but made him buy back the products he had already sold, driving him bankrupt.
     
  2. mjkeat

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    We had a nice thread going just a couple weeks ago over this devise :). You can buy a decent complete upper from PSA for the price of this thing. Id rather have another upper.
     

  3. JonM

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    my opinion is its far cheaper to buy a real machine gun than risk the massive fine and ten years in prison based off an opinion of the atf that can change anytime.

    the letter the slidefire guy has is not an official stance its just the opinion of a atf nfa examiner. this has no force of law. the atf has decided in the past that such devices violate the intent of machine gun law.

    if you want to risk your freedom go for it.
     
  4. 7.62 Man

    7.62 Man New Member

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    If it were my money I would buy the upper, and if I feel like wasting a bunch of ammo I would learn to bump fire.
    If you put a light trigger in your AR it will help your long range accuracy & help you to bump.;)
     
  5. mjkeat

    mjkeat New Member

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    Maybe I'm a stick in the mud but I don't see myself ever becoming proficient enough w/ my AR that I have time to play grab a*s w/ this thing. Fun/good range time to me is learning something or becoming faster/better at something that can be translated to the defensive world. I really enjoy watching my shot pattern shrink as my trigger pulls become quicker.
     
  6. Quentin

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    No bump fire fan here either!

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6k5RbP402U&feature=related]Joe Tex-- no bump no more { with no big fat woman } - YouTube[/ame] :D
     
  7. fsted2a

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    Bumpfiring is fun, but I am in agreement of most of the posters here; not worth the risk. The bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms and condoms changes their opinions pretty often, and I don't want to be on the bad end of one of their doublecrosses.
     
  9. fsted2a

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    Yeah, but you gotta admit wasting ammo is fun when you can afford it:D
    In most cases a thick rubber band wrapped around the trigger to the mag does the same thing.
    I was just thinking that you could wedge the position lever on the carbine open, then put a small section of buffer spring at the bottom before putting it back on and you will have the same if not better effect.
     
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  10. fsted2a

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    Unfortunately, every thing you said is true.
     
  11. 7.62 Man

    7.62 Man New Member

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    You had better watch out the BATF may say.

    thick rubber band + AR = machine gun
    It just depends on how they want to add it up.
     
  12. luan87us

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    Lol dang I was going to try that trick I guess I better not.
     
  13. fsted2a

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    So far, they haven't tried to mess with the guys doing the low tech approach to bumpfiring. As long as you don't do any major dissasembly, like take the pistol grip off or the INTERNAL trigger group modifications, ATF has been ok with bumpfiring. Tac trigger, hellfire, GAT trigger, are left alone (except in Cali). Atkins accellerator didn't require any skill to operate, which is why they went after him. I used a rubber band (when I had money to buy the ammo), and had some reasonable success. I actually started to narrow my shot group a little (got a 20rd shot group about 8") when the ammo prices started going sky high.
    The only reason I brought this subject up to begin with is that I feel as though this inventor is going down the path Mr Atkins did, and I hope he doesn't tangle with the ATF like Atkins.