AR-15 at Obama Town Hall

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by BigByrd47119, Aug 17, 2009.

  1. BigByrd47119

    BigByrd47119 New Member

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    AR-15 at Obama Town Hall


    Glad to see people arent afraid to do this. I think its a great way to make a point to the liberal media as it obviously distrubes them. I just hope nothing happens to give the left-wing more fuel for the fire!
     
  2. dunerunner

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    They are right!! If you don't exercise your rights, you loose them. If open carry is legal and no one carries in the open then folks get used to seeing regular folks without firearms. I can remember attending a training session in Arizona. I had been living in California for twenty years and drove my rental car from the hotel to a quick stop down the street to get a 6-pack. A guy in line to check out had a Semi-automatic pistol on his hip and caught me staring at it. He looked at me and said "You're from California, aren't you!" "Yes!" I said back, "We aren't used to seeing that where I live."
     

  3. TXnorton

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    Nice AR in the photo. BUT.............this does NOT do the conservative cause any good. The leftists will parade this photo about as an example of how "crazy" the anti-Obama crowd is. MOST people in this country will probably react negatively to the photo and be willing to accept the Left's spin on this. It does not matter if the act was legal, or if the rifle in the photo is a "Sport Utility Rifle". Even the photo caption on the front page of Foxnews.com called it an "assault rifle".

    I fail to see what positive message this person has contributed with his actions here.
     
  4. katdadee

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    I have to agree with you on this one TXnorton. One of the mantra's we had in the Marine Corps was to work smarter not harder, and in my opinion this is an example of making things harder.

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  5. jeepcreep927

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    I agree 100% with you on that sentiment. I just wonder why no one publishes a picture of Ted Kennedy with a drink in his hand? God bless the liberal media...
     
  6. canebrake

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    I'm of mixed minds on this subject.

    No one was arrested, no laws were broken.

    A right not exercised is not a right.

    His timing may be questioned, unless he carries on a regular basis.

    My bet is that this was the first time he open carried the AR in public and accomplished what he wanted to. His 15 minutes of fame.
     
  7. spittinfire

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    I too am of mixed thoughts. I agree, if you don't use your rights you'll loose them but I question if this was the best way to exercise them.
     
  8. RL357Mag

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    That ugly cu^t Rachel Madow on MSNBC spent 30 minutes last night slandering gun owners because of this - they even had an ex-Secret Service Agent discussing the ramifications and possible solutions to a repeat of the event in the future.
     
  9. killerhertz

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    I think it's great that some guys have the balls to go out there and exercise their rights. They're probably on some federal watch list now having their tax records and rectal exam history pored over.

    I could care less how the MSM spins it. Gun legislation is a dead issue for liberals because it would fuel the fire and piss off their constituents. I don't think it'll help them dismiss the "right wing" opposition when it comes to health care and other socialist issues. Sane people understand that we're a nation of laws and no laws were broken that day.
     
  10. Dillinger

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    Anyone notice THIS SPIN:

    I read the story, and I watched the video, and they did not say that the guy with the AR-15 was carrying it loaded. They said he had it strapped over his shoulder, and while it did have a magazine in it, there was no mention of the thing being loaded.

    Now, onto the issue at hand. The guy was well dressed. He was articulate. From the looks of his build and his jaw line, he was probably a former military member.

    I don't agree that was the best time to open carry, especially the ultra evil, black, SUR - But he wasn't a whack job and to everyone's surprise, he wasn't a white guy in a wife beater and camoflauge pants either. :cool:

    I agree with his statement that more people need to exercise their rights, including open carry, but to bring that caliber of hardware to an event where the CIC is, probably not the best overall choice.

    I understand. I even agree with what he is saying. I just don't think that was the best way to get the word out there.

    I am SURE he had his own Presidential Detail Sniper team tracking him from the moment he came around the corner, and well, that is not necessarily a good thing.

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  11. skullcrusher

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    Another story I was reading about the deal came from the SS. They indicated that no extra time or effort needs to be spent on persons open carrying at these events. First, these people are not regarded as a direct threat to the POTUS. Second, they won't be let into the building anyway. These people are in an openly visual area of protest. The sheriff's dept in Phoenix said none of these people violated any law, and the role of the local law enforcement is to make sure those carrying were not harrassed or attacked by anti-gun groups.

    What I have not heard in the mass media is the applause of people exercising their rights.

    I seriously doubt that the SUR was loaded.
     
  12. Gojubrian

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    I would have borrowed the biggest, baddest, 'assault weapon' I could find and stood right there beside him. Rock-on brother!!

    I'm not in to appeasing anti's. We're in the right and that matters more imo.
     
  13. pioneer461

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  14. Dillinger

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    Pioneer - I merged your thread with this one that was already active.

    JD
     
  15. BigByrd47119

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    Keep in mind this man was also only one of a dozen other armed protesters. God bless america! (And Arizona too!)
     
  16. NitroxAZ

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    While the question of whether or not he should have done this is up for personal interpretation, I have to say that I love this Great State of Arizona.

    I also like Sheriff Joe's position that wanted to make sure that the open carry folks weren't bothered by the anti gun side.
     
  17. Yunus

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    I've stood next to President Bush and to Obama(running for Pres at the time) while deployed. Both times SS made us leave our weapons at the hanger or outside his circle of protection (about 25ish yards, varies depending on situation). Only high ranking officers and MP/SP's on duty seemed to be exceptions to this policy which I find a bit insulting. They trust me with a weapon but not around certain high ranking people.

    My point is I'm wondering if it really is not a problem for the SS or if they are just saying that because admitting that it creates a headache for them might actually encourage more people to follow suit. Which I also think is a bad idea, it doesn't help the cause its just politicizes the issues which polarizes the people.
     
  18. DSAPT9

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    They win (the media) we loose. If your not willing to exercise your rights you deserve to have them taken away. I think many folks are fed up with the fact are rights are being stripped a way one small step at a time. Yes this may be the first time he carried his AR but when is a right not a right. If we believe he is in the wrong then what rights are we fighting for the right to own a gun but never use it and always keep it hidden. No I do not want to see a whack job do anything stupid but a whack job will do it if there is open carry or not. I live in north Idaho and see open carry all the time most people don’t even flinch because it is common. Just the brain washed folks from out of state who find it odd we can do it. Yes it is a small few who do on a daily basis with most doing occasionally but it is their right. I wonder how many more in the crowd carried concealed if I was the SS I would be more concerned about the hidden gun than some that is carrying open.

    We have allowed an anti gun minority and the media to tell us how to speak and act. We have kept quit so long it is the norm and so when we speak out on a subject like health care where called Mobs and extremist and God forbid you went to a tea party you’re a real nut job. And when we exercise our right to carry we are Right wing nut jobs to the max. I honestly hope a 1000 people show up at the next one open carrying in a peaceful manner to show people we have rights and we don’t want to loose them and we are not mobs just folks who believe the government is not the answer for everything. Remember the President is just a man like every one else, he is not a God so why should we act different around him than we do any other American.

    Hay what do I know I am a “ Right Wing Extremist “ according to DHS

    Just my thoughts.
     
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  19. bkt

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    It would have had more impact if a few thousand had done likewise. Hmmm...anyone up for a trip to D.C.? :cool:
     
  20. JiroZero713

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    I agree with it.

    If you read the article he made sure to stay in a big open public area and made no attempts to get inside.

    The secret service even said he was no threat.