Anyone have a PA CCL?

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by themyst, Mar 2, 2010.

  1. themyst

    themyst New Member

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    I have my Maine CCL but am also applying for a non-resident Pennsylvania CCL as I travel there from time to time.

    On the PA application, it asks for two personal, non-relative references. I live in a tiny town and most of my acquaintances are typical liberals. I'd rather they not know I carry a gun. So, I am curious - if anyone has applied for their PA concealed carry license, did they call your references, or are they just technical fodder for the file? I am applying in Centre County.
     
  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Don't have a PA CCW, but as far as references, a couple of possibles that are frequently overlooked are your insurance agent, and your banker. Was struggling for references one day (I work with explosives, and ONE license I was applying for required TEN references) when I realized I had known and done business with one agent for 20 yrs, and my banker for 15 yrs.
     

  3. deth502

    deth502 New Member

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    afaik, they never called my referances in northumberland co. but i am a resident there. and all but the last time, i was close personal friends with the sherif that issued them.
     
  4. oldhunter

    oldhunter New Member

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    I am a resident of New York State and have had a NYS pistol permit for concealed carry for many years. I live within 5 miles of the PA border directly south of Buffalo and also obtained a PA concealed carry permit in 1995. When applying for the PA permit, the only thing that was required was to allow them to take a copy of my NYS permit and complete a simple application. Within 15 minutes I had my PA permit. The sheriff of McKean County where I obtained my permit, was extremely friendly and offerred to answer any questions. He also provided updated reciprocity laws for PA permit holders unlike NYS that accepts no other state. The experience could not of been any better.

    oldhunter
     
  5. Torontogunguy

    Torontogunguy New Member

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    Never called my references. Suggest using your lawyer, your pharmacist, your GP, your banker, members of a club that you belong to, etc. Coming up with two should not be that difficult. Apply to Center County, Sheriff Nye. Your permit will come back and looks like a receipt from a receipt book with your photograph taped to it. Works real good. Especially in PA. Read and know the rules in PA; there seems to be some discrepancy in their interpretation of the concealed carry regs.
     
  6. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper New Member

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    What "discrepancies" in the regs do you refer to Toronto guy?
    Our laws are pretty simple.

    I have never had any references called. Pa is a "shall issue" state, so as long as you are legally allowed to own/carry a firearm, they cannot deny you a LCF.
     
  7. themyst

    themyst New Member

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    I used to live in PA, had my CCL there many years ago. I remember how surprised I was that the procedure was so unassuming and pleasant and quick. I was surprised, because at the time, they still had a lot of those old blue laws on their books - you couldn't buy beer at a convenience store, you couldn't buy a six-pack at a beer distributor (only a case), and I don't believe you could buy liquor on a Sunday, among a plethora of other petty rules. Not that I'm an alcoholic or anything ... I used to work in the beer industry when I resided there. But yes, PA is very reasonable about CCL's.

    The application just has a square on it that says 'photograph if required', but doesn't say anywhere how to tell if it is required or not. Also, there are no instructions to separately submit a photo. My Maine CCL does not have a photo. I wonder if this is some kind of oversight on their part. I just may have to call them anyway. Thanks for the tip on the regs for PA, I will certainly look them up.
     
  8. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper New Member

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    PA LCF are valid with/without a photo. If you want a photo on your license, you have to provide one.
    They may need a file photo for your initial application, I cant remember for sure.
    You may want to just call the Sheriff's office to be sure.
     
  9. deth502

    deth502 New Member

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    btw, kudos for using "ccl" and/or "lcf" and not "ccw"

    its one of those small things that ppl often get wrong that just irks me.
     
  10. themyst

    themyst New Member

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    I used to use ccw just because I saw others do it that way and you know, monkey see, monkey do. But ccl does make more sense.
     
  11. oldhunter

    oldhunter New Member

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    When I stated earlier today about how pleasant an experience it was to obtain a concealed carry handgun permit in Pa, I did not complete the answer as orginally asked. Once I showed my NYS pistol permit, there was no attempt made for me to provide references for the PA application. My picture was taken and soon I was handed my laminated PA permit. I failed to mention that when I arrived, I was accompanied by the other three members of my golf foresome. All of us had NYS permits and we all left the office with our PA permits. I have made mention of this occurance many times on many firearm forums and once again repeat the pleasant way the sheriff and his staff handled everything. All of us obtained what we came for and left with much information from the staff as they answered all our questions as if it were an election year and they were all running for office.
     
  12. MrGlock45

    MrGlock45 New Member

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    In PA it is a very pleasant experience to get or renew your LTCF in PA that is what it called. LTCF=license to carry firearm
    It enables you to carry either concealed or open carry if you like. Open carry is legal everywhere in PA except a city of the first class (the only one is Philadelphia.) In Phily to carry openly you must have a LTCF but anywhere else one is not needed.
    The problem arrises if you decide to drive anywhere while you are open carrying. Once you enter the vehicle then gun is then considered "concealed" hence the need to have a LTCF if you want to do anything other than walk everywhere.
    I'm coming up on my 37th yr of carrying concealed, and thank heaven I've never had to use my handgun.
    The last time I renewed my licence it took me longer to find a parking space than it did to get my renewal in the sheriffs dept.
    Good luck and always stay safe.