Anyone else have this issue?

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by BullMoose429, Sep 12, 2020.

  1. BullMoose429

    BullMoose429 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    It definitely isn’t anything to do with the key or the gas tube. I’m gonna replace the gas rings and see how that works. However- I think I’m still overreacting a little. I’ll give a report after I take it shooting today.
     
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  2. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    How many rounds does it take to create this condition?

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  3. BullMoose429

    BullMoose429 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Maybe 75-100
     
  4. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    That is quiet a few rounds. To me it goes back to possibly the Ammunition. One time I bought some Aquila Ammunition because it was cheap at the time. And OMG I swear they were loaded with part Coal Dust.
    To put it simply, never bought any more of it! Maybe it is different today but back then OMG!
    But be sure not to use much lube on the charging handle it will collect Carbon.
    And as you said, check the Gas Rings.
    By the way how much Carbon is collecting on the Tail Shaft of the Bolt itself?
    Let us know what you find out!

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  5. W.T. Sherman

    W.T. Sherman Well-Known Member

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    I really don't understand why you guys are so concern with gas rings, dirty receivers, or "dirty ammunition". it all comes out in a cleaning.

    if it fires, cycles, feeds then leave it alone, don't try to fix something that ain't broke......otherwise you just might break it
     
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  6. BullMoose429

    BullMoose429 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Problem solved!!

    It was the gas rings.
     
  7. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    Great!
    It sounds like it would probably not been long before the Rifle would have started Short Stoking due to the Rings and a lot of times the Carbon also builds up on the Tail Shaft of the Bolt. And since the tolerance is so close between the Tail Shaft and the rear Hole in the Carrier it can also cause excessive Drag. One should notice that tolerance area is very close there. The Bolt has NO Rings on the rear Tail Shaft, only on the Front section.
    Glad you found it!

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  8. windjammer69

    windjammer69 Well-Known Member

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    If you are concerned about gas rings, take the bolt carrier pull the bolt out to fully extended it, then place the BCG on the bolt face, standing it on the bolt. It should stay extended, not collapse. And even if it slowly slides down, it is still ok as long as it does not slam down, that would not be good.
     
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  9. BullMoose429

    BullMoose429 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Thanks- yeah the new gas rings solved the problem
     
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  10. PeeJay1313

    PeeJay1313 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    We like pictures here.. I believe most people understand, but just incase..
     
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  11. BullMoose429

    BullMoose429 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Here you go then:
    Nice new gas rings 64707BA0-6EFB-412F-BB93-51486DB95B66.jpeg

    And it stands up nice and well 8B43B2DE-646C-48D9-959F-5A5118B9D85F.jpeg
     
  12. PeeJay1313

    PeeJay1313 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I think that might help some people. Thank you
     
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  13. G66enigma

    G66enigma Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Okay, so with the older gas rings, what was happening? Too much gas was being allowed past the bolt assembly and getting into the works?

    (Neophyte AR user, here, having had only one; so, any detail would help.)
     
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  14. BullMoose429

    BullMoose429 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Just too worn out.
     
  15. bluez

    bluez Well-Known Member

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    Yes they wear out after a while.
    Very cheap part to own extras of ...

    I keep on hand spares of the most commonly lost of worn parts.
    Luckily its easy since they are all very cheap.

    Incidentally even wtih ARs that running very clean (such a piston AR) I still lube the charging handle.
    I make my trigger finger oily and run it on the top and sides and even wetten the tip of a q tip with oil to run inside.
    (Do same inside the upper space where the BCG moves)

    I know its seems a bit obsessive but its fun and the AR design likes lubrication.
     
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