Hello, I'm new to this forum but not at all new to shooting. I have a Ruger 22 Hornet that has been in the rack for about 10 years now. It sits in the rack because somebody one stated, I almost think it was Townsend Whelen, that "Only accurate rifles are interesting" and this one is surely NOT interesting. I've run across posts elsewhere that lead me to believe that mine is not the only uninteresting Hornet that Ruger ever made. It has had under 200 rds through it, some factory, the rest handloads, and not a group under about 2 1/2". I've determined that now is the time to either make it shoot or find somebody else who wants it. Has anyone else here had issues with Ruger Hornets shooting patterns instead of groups? If so, how did you deal with the issue? I got after it yesterday and suspect I may have found part(maybe all) of the problem. I neck sized a few cases and started seating bullets way out, moving them in until I could get the bolt to cam, them in and seat the bullets so that they were engaging the rifling. These were Barnes, 36 gr. Varmint Grenades and Hornady 45 gr. Spitzers, the style they used to(maybe still do) call the SX. Using that as a max length I set the expander stem in one turn to get a safe OAL with the bullets barely clearing the rifling. From that point bullets had to be seated in excess of .180" to almost .200 to fit the magazine. That seems like an awful lot of clearance there. I loaded 10 rds of each bullet with appropriate charges set to fit the magazine and 10 more with the same charge with the bullet seated close to the rifling. As soon as I get a chance I'm going to send them downrange and see if the long seated ones shoot better than magazine length loads. If they do I think it may be time to talk to the folks at Ruger about this.