Anybody have any ideas what this is?

Discussion in 'Revolver Handguns' started by otis5641, Sep 6, 2012.

  1. otis5641

    otis5641 New Member

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    My grandfather left this to me, and I'm havin a hard time tracking down what exactly it is. It has no names or serial #'s on it. Any ideas?
     

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  2. hiwall

    hiwall Well-Known Member

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    They made many similar revolvers in the first part of the 1900's in Europe. The cylinder on yours looks fairly long so it could be a "velo dog". They were popular and inexpensive.
     

  3. ineverFTF

    ineverFTF New Member

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    It's a weird ass revolver, just my professional opinion :p
     
  4. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Subscribing to thread so I can wait for C3 to come and enlighten us.
     
  5. ineverFTF

    ineverFTF New Member

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    You are correct hiwall. That is indeed a velo.

    It was invented in the late 19th century as a cheap defense Against all the wild, and feral dogs.

    Used a 5.75mm or 22 caliber bullet in a surprisingly long case, i imagine it actually did quit well as a small defense gun against dogs, and people.
     
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  6. ineverFTF

    ineverFTF New Member

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    A simple comparison i found

    A shot shell, a 22short, a 22l, a 22lr, and the 5.75 velo dog cartridge.



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    A more accurate picture of the velo dog cartridge.



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  7. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Very likely Belgian- the ejector is a scaled down copy of the one used on the Royal irish Constabulary revolver. The scalloped type cylinder flutes seems to be a fairly common Belgian touch.

    Velo dog would be a fairly safe bet if a .22 round fits loosely. Those, BTW, were centerfire. The "Velo" part of the name was Velicopede- or bicycle- a gun for bicyclist to defend themselves from dogs (Imagine the outcry and clamor today!) A few of those little revolvers were made in .25 Auto (it is a semi rimmed round, and CAN be used in a revolver)

    Here is a SIMILAR revolver that was for sale. http://www.gunauction.com/buy/10058...-made-in-the-1880s-has-folding-hidden-trigger

    If you remove cylinder, and look on the back edge, you may find a tiny oval with the letters ELG. If so, Belgian- mark is the Leige proofhouse.
     
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  8. ineverFTF

    ineverFTF New Member

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    I don't disagree as you are the master, but what makes you think it's Belgian?

    I thought These were primarily french made.
     
  9. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    It could very well be French- the Velo Dog cartridge, and the first of the revolvers WERE French, made by Galand. The Belgians were soon making inexpensive copies (at that time, everyone in Belgium over the age of 5 seemed to be in the gun business)

    I have had a couple of SIMILAR guns (ejector mechanism is somewhat distinctive) that did have Belgian proofs- two velo dogs and 2 in .320 European Revolver caliber. A lot of the Belgian guns used a fluting that was closed at both ends- most is open at the front end.

    Not a guarantee, just an indicator.

    And BETTER PICTURES would help (HINT!) :D
     
  10. jordan89

    jordan89 New Member

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    C3, you're the man.
     
  11. ineverFTF

    ineverFTF New Member

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    Alright, thank you, now i need to do even more research on this little thing.
     
  12. otis5641

    otis5641 New Member

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    Wow! Thanks a lot to everyone! All I knew about it before now was that my grandfather "removed" it from a German boy that tried to use it on him. I assumed it was a military issue boot gun for the Germans. Now, i guess the assumption should be that this was the kids personal gun that he brought to the field.

    Thanks again!
     
  13. Blueguns

    Blueguns New Member

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    I concur with that.