Any way to keep the Mini from slinging brass 100ft

Discussion in 'Mini-14 Forum' started by ccase39, Oct 1, 2013.

  1. ccase39

    ccase39 Member

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    Keep in mind I have an older mini with the fixed rear iron sites. I havent had much luck trying to modify in other areas. I feel bad at the range showering the guy next to me with hot brass.
     
  2. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    Stand a couple of posts strait up in the air. Tie a rope between them. Hang a tarp or king size bed sheet to the rope. Stand next to it while shooting. Works with all of you guns...not just the mini.
     

  3. sandog

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    ccase, the most expensive way would be to go the adjustable gas block route. Next would be buying a 3 pack of bushings in differing sizes. The cheapest way of reducing your mini's over gassing is to put a 3/32" roll pin inside the gas bushing you now have. I did that and it worked fine. My ejection went from over 30 feet to about 20 feet. Adding some Wilson 1911 buffers got it down to 12 feet. Don't go crazy restricting your gas flow though. I have heard of some who say their Mini now ejects the brass one or two feet. That's just barely falling out, and doesn't seem like it would be reliable enough. With less than full power ammo like Rem-UMC or Fed American Eagle, it might not even cycle. I'd want it to throw the empties at least 6 to 8 feet when you are done. Be careful putting the roll pin into your bushing, it's a tight fit, and after you get it in there, you will have to grind/file the ends flush as the roll pin will be a little longer than the bushing. Booger it up too much and you can always order another bushing from Brownell's or Midway for a few bucks.
     
  4. MisterMcCool

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  5. hawkguy

    hawkguy Well-Known Member

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    but....WHY?

    how many guns are deadly in two directions? :p

    but seriously, just stay on the farthest right lane....:D

    red neck solution: if you got a scope, throw a ball cap over it.....
     
  6. Clem

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    I found out about the interchangeable bushings and went that route. While I was at it, I got a stainless gas pipe for my blued gun and changed that as well. I have had corrosion lock up the gun, even though I clean it thoroughly after every use. I believe I am currently using a 0.042” bushing. It does a nice job of ejecting the cases without sending them into the next zip code.
     
  7. Anna_Purna

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    Learn to shoot it 'gangster' style :D

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9ckeiAP-g8[/ame]
     
  8. ccase39

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    Thanks, great advice. I didnt want to mess with the gas block anyway because apparantly the one that comes on mine is pretty valuable and my mini has some collectors value. Its not something I will shoot much, but when I do it would be nice to minimalize any casualties. I would have to find a video on the bushing on youtube if they have one. Im not confident enough in my gunsmithing skills to take that on without seeing it done.
     
  9. sandog

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    A brass catcher is nice for the shooting range, but only for the shooting range. And your Mini will still be over gassed. Reducing the gas flow somewhat, and adding the buffers will reduce wear and tear from metal to metal contact and cut down on the jolt of the op rod moving faster than necessary. Just don't over do it, and it will still function very reliably. I don't know of a video for the roll pin mod, I would try to press the roll pin in with some smooth jaws or smooth jaw inserts on a vise.It's not that hard, took all of 2 minutes and cost 28 cents. If you are reluctant to try it, you can order a set of smaller orifice bushings, don't exactly remember the cost but I believe from $15 to over $40, depending on who you order from.
     
  10. tri70

    tri70 New Member

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    Contact Gundoc and get a gas bushing kit for the cheap easy fix also ASI (Accuracy Systems Inc) sells them.
     
  11. Monkeyclaw

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    Thanks for sharing, everyone! I just replaced my gas bushing with a smaller one, and put in a 1911 buffer. I inherited this 196 Mini from my dad, who didn't shoot it much. I've been shooting it a little (along with the other guns he left me) and the brass throw was driving me crazy! I'll take it out shooting in the next few days and see how it goes.
     
  12. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    That's easy. Stop pulling the trigger.

    Sorry... I couldn't resist.
     
  13. ccase39

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    Anyone have a picture or video on exactly where to install the bushing? I found a video of one on a pistol but not the mini
     
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    ccase39, that is a good photo of the bushing at the back of the op rod, against the receiver. Some people, myself included, also put one at the front of the op rod, by the gas block. It goes on the same way, but around the gas "pipe" that sticks out of the gas block, and will keep the op rod end from banging against the gas block. Check for proper functioning at the range by firing at least a couple boxes of ammo, and if the Mini isn't fully cycling or not fully feeding/ ejecting, try to thin down the shock buffers by splitting them thinner. Should be fine though, the way they are.
     
  17. ccase39

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    any vids on how to remove the spring from the receiver?
     
  18. Monkeyclaw

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    Quick update - still flinging the brass a good 20 feet or so. I had put on the .045 gas tube buffer. I'll switch to the .040 buffer (smallest one I got) and see if that helps. If that doesn't fix it, I'll try the 2nd shock buffer as well.

    My wife was shooting my AR15 nearby, and the brass was going about 10 feet. This is what I'd like to get to with the mini.