Any questions on 1911 reliability? 1911 myth debunking 2.0

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by Wambli, Nov 17, 2019.

  1. Wambli

    Wambli Well-Known Member

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    So a while back I started a thread on 1911 myths I hate and of course the old BS generalization that 1911s are not “reliable” is one of my favorite ones to kill with actual proof. Just bought this Kimber Tactical Pro. As usual, my torture test of any 1911, or for that matter ANY semi auto I buy, is to fire a bunch of mags of mix and match ammo from my “leftovers” bucket. I randomly load different bullet weights, some +Ps, different bullet profiles etc. Of course as I mentioned on my original thread just about ALL issues with 1911s can be traced to crappy gun show mags. I only use modern premium mags on all my carry guns. Here is the gun, a typical mix of ammo and the first three mags I ran through it (3 different Wilson Combat mags). 7 yards, offhand, aimed fire about a second or less per shot.

    Yeah 1911s are unreliable... LMAO. I can’t remember the last time one of my guns failed this test.

    I ran a few hundred rounds of my SD ammo of choice for this gun without a hitch so she is now cleaned, loaded and ready to go out with me.

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  2. manta

    manta Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Nice gun.
     
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  3. PaBushMan

    PaBushMan Well-Known Member

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    My 1911's are the most reliable handguns i have next to my wheel guns.
     
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  4. manta

    manta Well-Known Member Supporter

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    And the 1911 i had was the most unreliable handgun i have owned. It seems you get what you pay for regarding reliability and the 1911, some are more reliable than others. The problem is there are so many manufactures of the 1911 some good some bad, so its hard to know what you are getting, where as with Glock CZ etc you know you are getting a reliable firearm.
     
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  5. PeeJay1313

    PeeJay1313 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Very nice looking. I love my Kimber ultra II. Kimber is a great firearm. I cant say anything bad about 1911's. They've always treated me perfect. Even my S&W 1911 pro. Great pistol too. I cant say nothing bad about the great 1911's.. 20190929_214447.jpeg DSC00262-1.jpeg
     
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  6. PeeJay1313

    PeeJay1313 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    What did you have?
     
  7. rn-cindy

    rn-cindy Well-Known Member

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    Not always..I have a Kimber Raptor that has been back to them twice. Still does not run reliably. Might send it back to them again someday, but for now have lost interest in it..and it just sits in the safe. I will say Kimber customer service has been wonderful..just the results not so much.
     
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  8. manta

    manta Well-Known Member Supporter

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    A para ordnance 14-45, maybe i just got a bad one. Don't get me wrong i like the 1911, anyone into firearms should own a 1911.
     
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  9. rn-cindy

    rn-cindy Well-Known Member

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    Should add...i have a SR1911, and a relatively cheap Rock Island GI Standard that both have about 400 rnds thru them with no problems at all..
     
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  10. Wambli

    Wambli Well-Known Member

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    Thank you. I have a fondness for Kimbers.
     
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  11. Wambli

    Wambli Well-Known Member

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    Mine too. All of them!
     
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  12. Wambli

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    There’s a good reason Para-Ord is out of business. They screwed around with a really good design to the point of making it unreliable. They also had all sorts of issues with QC. Their double stacked mags were nightmares to keep running right. Sorry, of all the 1911s you could have bought, you got the poster troubled child.
     
  13. Wambli

    Wambli Well-Known Member

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    Sorry to hear that, though just by sheer numbers almost every manufacturer will end up putting out one lemon somewhere off the assembly line. I wish I could get my hands on your Raptor. I can guarantee you I could get it running right swiftly. One of my favorite guns is my UltraRaptor and it has been flawless for over a year now.
     
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    Both of them are fantastic guns and the RIAs are a good example of sticking to the original design being almost foolproof even when putting out a less expensive gun. I bought a brand new RIA complete frame on Gunbroker and fitted a Kimber .22 conversion on to it so I could have a dedicated .22 1911 and it’s a tackdriver pistol!
     
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  15. SSGN_Doc

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    My test for a new gun for carry, is to run 1,000 rounds of mixed ammo through them with no cleaning. I actually ran my Px4 Compact and P07 for 2k without cleaning.

    It gives me an opportunity to identify ammo preferences or sensitivities, by weight or style of bullet.

    My Springfield 1911, did fine with this. It was not new, but new to me and I rebuilt it, and added a few parts that were missing, when I bought it.

    I don’t carry it often. But I know it can run for a while without being overly sensitive. I did also run it in a dirty environment and did manage to choke it, in sandy soil environment, but sand made it in to the trigger races of the frame and into the area in front of the hammer.

    So, I have a good idea of the limitations of that particular 1911. That kind of grit in the works of most pistols would create reliability issues though.
     
  16. manta

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    The mags were OK the firing pin retainer broke leaving the gun useless, i was at the range so my life did not depend on it. I am sure there are plenty of poor copies out there.
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  17. PaBushMan

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    All mine are RIA'S except for my 1 ATI. And my 1911-22's 1 is a Chiappa and the other is a Colt made by Walther.
     
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  18. PeeJay1313

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    No experience with them.. Sorry
     
  19. PeeJay1313

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    Not even broke in yet..
     
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  20. Wambli

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    That’s an unusual failure. Can’t say I’ve seen that one before. Swift fix in any case. Can’t say I’ve seen plenty of poor copies out there either. Even the latest entry, a low $300s gun made in Turkey (?) if I remember correctly seems to be getting great reviews. I’m thinking of buying one just for the hell of it.