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I was choosing between 2 guns, the XD45C and Glock 30. Then I read on Glock forum about KB's and was wondering if the XD's have had similar problems.
 

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KB's with Glocks are fairly common, while they are pretty rare with the XD.

Glocks are also known for failures to eject, stovepipes and even slamfires.

Overall, the XD is safer and more reliable.

I've been on the gun show circuit in a two state area since the 1980's. Several large and reputable dealers have told me that the XD is now the #1 selling pistol in the USA, as far as sales to the public. These were dealers who sold BOTH brands, so they had nothing against Glock.

Glock is still #1 in law enforcement sales, but multiple agencies and PD's have discontinued using Glocks over the last several years.
 

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KB's with Glocks are fairly common, while they are pretty rare with the XD.

Glocks are also known for failures to eject, stovepipes and even slamfires.

Overall, the XD is safer and more reliable.

I've been on the gun show circuit in a two state area since the 1980's. Several large and reputable dealers have told me that the XD is now the #1 selling pistol in the USA, as far as sales to the public. These were dealers who sold BOTH brands, so they had nothing against Glock.

Glock is still #1 in law enforcement sales, but multiple agencies and PD's have discontinued using Glocks over the last several years.
I don't know that I'd say that they are common.

If I'm not mistaken, the XDs also have an unsupported chamber like the Glocks, so it is a potential problem for both firearms.
 

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I don't know that I'd say that they are common.

If I'm not mistaken, the XDs also have an unsupported chamber like the Glocks, so it is a potential problem for both firearms.
I said FAIRLY common, which is an accurate statement. Ask the Indiana State Police, who returned an entire shipment of weapons to Glock because of all the problems they had with them, and ended up going with a different brand.

XD's have a FULLY SUPPORTED chamber, Matt. Don't take my word for it. Google and ye shall find! :)
 

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I said FAIRLY common, which is an accurate statement. Ask the Indiana State Police, who returned an entire shipment of weapons to Glock because of all the problems they had with them, and ended up going with a different brand.

XD's have a FULLY SUPPORTED chamber, Matt. Don't take my word for it. Google and ye shall find! :)
Good to know, thanks for fixing it for me.
 

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Looks like XD is the way to go for me.
You won't regret buying an XD.

I'm not saying all or even most Glocks "suck". However, there are enough well-documented design, quality control and safety issues with various models of Glock, to be of concern to anyone looking to buy one.

Glocks are also notoriously picky about what ammo you put in them. If you're interested in handloading, don't even consider a Glock.
 

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I was set on getting a Glock until I heard of the XD. I did some research and well I now own a XD .45 full size. great pistol.
 

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County Sheriff deputy in Colorado just KB an XD40....his fault.

He loaded 9mm into the mag, chambered a round...figuered out he had put the wrong ammo in the mag and switched to a mag full of 40's.

Ran the slide and pulled the trigger......the round of 40 had pushed the round of 9 into the barrel.....and when the 40 went off KABOOM !

Blew the entire front of the slide, frame and barrel off foward of the chamber.

Operator error...not a XD issue.
 

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County Sheriff deputy in Colorado just KB an XD40....his fault.

He loaded 9mm into the mag, chambered a round...figuered out he had put the wrong ammo in the mag and switched to a mag full of 40's.

Ran the slide and pulled the trigger......the round of 40 had pushed the round of 9 into the barrel.....and when the 40 went off KABOOM !

Blew the entire front of the slide, frame and barrel off foward of the chamber.

Operator error...not a XD issue.
Thanks for the info. :)

Just goes to show that virtually NO weapon made can prevent accidents due to "SHS" (Sheer Human Stupidity :D), and that strict discipline and adherence to proper safety rules MUST be practiced at ALL times.

Virtually all XD kB's are operator error, whereas a significant number of Glock kB's are due to design deficiencies etc.
 

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Look at a wheelgun. That is a fully-supported chamber. Auto-loaders, by design, cannot have a fully-supported chamber. They must be throated to allow the cartridge to enter.

And Wikipedia is a terrible source to cite...
 

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Look at a wheelgun. That is a fully-supported chamber. Auto-loaders, by design, cannot have a fully-supported chamber. They must be throated to allow the cartridge to enter.

And Wikipedia is a terrible source to cite...
But Guns & Ammo is an EXCELLENT source, and they say it's fully supported. I'll take their expertise over an internet nobody like yourself.
 

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But Guns & Ammo is an EXCELLENT source, and they say it's fully supported. I'll take their expertise over an internet nobody like yourself.
No, it's not that good of a source either, particularly because it's wrong.

Tell you what. Take out the barrel, take a .45, put it in the chamber, then shine a flashlight down the barrel. If you can see light, then it's not fully-supported...
 
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