Anti-Gun Propaganda, Aimed at New Parents

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by ApacheBunny, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. ApacheBunny

    ApacheBunny New Member

    Well I Don't know if this has been posted up before, but during a doctor visit for my daughter (9 months old now), they took her measurements then handed us a yellow piece of paper that reads "Firearms Injury Prevention" which pretty much tells you to remove all guns from your house or your child will die no matter what, or I can just type out everything it says.

    More than 44 million Americans own firearms. Of the 192 million firearms owned in the United States, 65 million are handguns. Research shows guns in homes are a serious risk to families. - What research?

    A gun kept in the home is 43 times more likely to kill someone known to the family than kill someone in self defense. - I really thought we debunked this since all the "gun owners" never owned a gun. In the tests the "perp" knew where to find the gun which makes the data unreliable, and very untrue.

    A gun kept in the home triples the risk of homicide. - I seriously doubt this

    The risk of suicide is 5 times more likely if a gun is kept in the home. - They sure love their "times more likely" crap, a gun in the home wont advocate suicide, that's the mental health of the person not the gun psychically telling the person to shoot themselves.

    Advice to Parents
    The best way to keep your children safe from injury or death from guns is to never have a gun in the home. -bs

    Do not purchase a gun, especially a handgun. - why shouldn't I

    Remove all guns present in the home. - they fail to make a valid argument about this.

    Talk to your children about the dangers of guns, and tell them to stay away from guns. - yeah because it works real well like telling them about drugs and how drugs are bad.

    Find out if there are guns in the homes where your children play. If so, talk to the adults in the house about the dangers of guns to their families. - yeah go make yourself sound like a huge nag and hand them this yellow slip, I have seen a few gun related deaths in my area where kids were playing around in the house alone with access to guns this would strengthen the liberal argument but it was because the adult wasn't responsible and didn't teach their kid proper gun safety.

    For those who know of the dangers of guns but still keep a gun in the home.

    Always keep the gun unloaded and locked up. - this isn't a law rather than a suggestion, and not needed if you teach a kid proper gun safety, only reason you would need a gun case and lock is if you leave them alone in the house, but also don't keep a round in the chamber (duh).

    Lock and store the bullets in a separate place. - misuse of the word. No point, plus in case of home invasion would stack the odds against you and further strengthen the liberal/democratic argument that guns don't save you, yes because the ammo was on the other side of the house

    Make sure to hide the keys to the locked boxes. - I think I said enough above

    Well I hope this complex nugget of horse poo sure stirred things up. the pediatricians here handed this out to new parents during check ups, and since most new parents are concerned about their child's well being, I am sure this would scare them into doing exactly what it says unless they actually have common sense. (hope this wasn't too long and that it didn't just go in circles)
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2011
  2. JonM

    JonM Moderator

    shoulda told him that he is 9000 times more liekly to kill your child than your gun and ask him for the blue sheet warning of the dangers of taking your kid to him.


  3. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

    Most of the doctors I know are shooters and/or collectors.
  4. ApacheBunny

    ApacheBunny New Member

    yeah it was just included paper clipped together with my daughters measurements and some other safety crap, i guess they bank on new parents being as dumb as a sack of hammers. Yeah we debunked most of those myths, democrat and liberal news tries to tell people a bunch of lies and make guns look as bad as drugs, or rape, or any other criminal activity
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  5. dunerunner

    dunerunner New Member

    It is the AMA that pushes this agenda, and there are doctors who are happy to promulgate it!
  6. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

    Well, I was talking with my doctor last week. He had just made a nice double, and was reloading his over and under..........

    Pick your doctor, lawyer, and friends carefully.
  7. ApacheBunny

    ApacheBunny New Member

    yeah i should of stated that it wasnt my doctor but the facility that handed it out, the doctor is fine, he has his collection of guns, i still cant believe that they are using that debunked 43 times more likely argument
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  8. jeepcreep927

    jeepcreep927 New Member

    I was asked by my son's Doctor if there were firearms in the house when he was there for a physical before playing soccer. I asked what relevence that had to his physical ability to play a sport.

    My son informed her that he had just received his first .22 LR and loved hunting squirrels with it. She looked like a deer in headlights at that moment.
  9. pandamonium

    pandamonium New Member

    When I took my daughter to the Drs when she was a newborn, the doc asked if there were guns in the house. I answered "Hell yeah! there are guns in my house, you mean YOU DON'T have guns?" He said " NO! Guns are dangerous!" I replied, "Your darned right they're dangerous, they wouldn't be any good if they weren't! So, if you don't have guns in your house, how would YOU protect your wife and kids if someone busted into your house and wanted to kill you and rape your wife and daughter?!" Blank stare followed. Two months or so later I saw him at the gun shop down the road. :cool:
  10. skullcrusher

    skullcrusher New Member

    A nurse looked at me when my son was born and asked if I had made the home ready for his arrival. I asked as to what she meant. She went down a list, like a good crib...blah...blah but added, "And there aren't any guns in the house, right?"

    I said, "There are plenty, and a bunch of knives, too."

    I can still see the look of horror mixed with disgust on her fat, old haggled face. I told my wife later that I should have thrown in "shapened pencils, scissors and horizontal blinds."

    A good friend of mine is a nurse. She once told me that almost 1 in 4 parents attempt to take their new borns home without a proper car seat or even one at all.

    Get used to the bs propaganda, ApacheBunny. Seems like you have a good handle on it, so keep it up. :)
  11. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

    FWIW, I used to teach basic defensive shooting to an average of one Nurse a month. Usually after they had a patient that was a BAD victim of an assualt. My rec to them was a S&W J frame .38 Special. 4 boxes of wadcutter, one of HP. Take them to our place in the country, teach two handed LOOK at the target- at 7 yards, they were chopping the center of the silouhette by the 2nd box. Soft spot in my heart for tough ladies.
  12. ApacheBunny

    ApacheBunny New Member

    funny thing is right after the doctor visit, I went to the FFL dealer and signed the papers for my new gun. Been waiting almost a week and a half even my wife is on edge that my gun isn't here yet she wants to shoot it as much as i do. I might start my daughter up on a .22 lr bolt action when she is around 5 or 6 and teach her good gun handling and the dos and donts.
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2011
  13. oldshooter

    oldshooter New Member

    I started teaching my children about guns as early as 4.
    One rule was: If you ever want to see one of our guns, just ask me. I will stop what I'm doing and help you but never touch it if I'm not there.
    It served them well as my son kept himself safe in 3 tours in Iraq and one in the other sandbox.(Cant spell afganastan)
  14. orangello

    orangello New Member

    My chiropractor (sp) and i were chatting about my new BP revolvers, last time i was there. He seems like a decent fellow.

    Just hand that propaganda back and tell them you already bought toilet tissue this week.
  15. Bushman

    Bushman Member

    When each of my daughters were young, like 6 or 7, the doctors/nurses had asked the girls directly if there were guns in the home, then wrote it down. They didn't ask the wife or I. Kinda pissed me off. Ignorance and near sightedness.
  16. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

    How about this? The next time you are in the doctor's office hand them a sheet of paper that reads;

    I have read and thoroughly agree with the warnings about gun ownership as given to me on____ date in this medical facility. I have divested myself of all firearms and ammunition (bullets). Since I no longer have the ability to defend myself, my spouse and our child, I will now hold this facility financially responsible for any harm that may come from a criminal entering my residence. Expect a certified letter to follow giving you offical notice of liability should I be unable to defend my household. A copy of this letter has been forwarded to (XYZ law firm) who stands ready to pursue a civil action against the members, management and owners of this facility.

    Signed _____________

    This ought to get their panties in a bunch.
  17. Samples.32

    Samples.32 New Member


    Or how about we do this instead familiarize your child with guns. Make guns something so common that they are not a freaking mystery that the child has to solve, and then shoot all the ... Sorry that was about to turn into a mean rant
  18. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

    Doctors 9000 times more likely to accidently kill you then a gun!

    (A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.

    (B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.

    (C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171

    Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of
    Health and Human Services.

    Now think about this:

    (A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000. (Yes, that's 80 million)

    (B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.

    (C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .0000188

    Statistics courtesy of FBI

    So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

    Fact: Not everyone has a gun but almost everyone has at least one doctor.
    This means you are over 9,000 times more likely to be killed by a doctor as by a gun owner

    Jon hit it on the head here. Seriously, this is very true.

    All this gun info being handed out at the doctor's office must be new. I never encountered anything like this when I was raising my kids.
  19. rjd3282

    rjd3282 New Member

    "1 in 4 parents don't have a proper car seat to take the baby home from the hospital"

    Hell when I was born they didn't have a car seat for me and the car had a steel dash board and no seat belts. Oh and there wasn't any safety warnings written on the barrels of my dads guns.