Another TSA Outrage - done to returning military from Afghan

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  1. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    I read this and YES - TSA are idiots!

    I been through the customs inspections (the check) leaving from PSAB, Saudi Arabia and Qatar AB, Qatar to name a few.

    Another TSA Outrage | RedState

    As the Chalk Leader for my flight home from Afghanistan, I witnessed the following:

    When we were on our way back from Afghanistan, we flew out of Baghram Air Field. We went through customs at BAF, full body scanners (no groping), had all of our bags searched, the whole nine yards.

    Our first stop was Shannon, Ireland to refuel. After that, we had to stop at Indianapolis, Indiana to drop off about 100 folks from the Indiana National Guard. That’s where the stupid started.

    First, everyone was forced to get off the plane–even though the plane wasn’t refueling again. All 330 people got off that plane, rather than let the 100 people from the ING get off. We were filed from the plane to a holding area. No vending machines, no means of escape. Only a male/female latrine.

    It’s probably important to mention that we were ALL carrying weapons. Everyone was carrying an M4 Carbine (rifle) and some, like me, were also carrying an M9 pistol. Oh, and our gunners had M-240B machine guns. Of course, the weapons weren’t loaded. And we had been cleared of all ammo well before we even got to customs at Baghram, then AGAIN at customs.

    The TSA personnel at the airport seriously considered making us unload all of the baggage from the SECURE cargo hold to have it reinspected. Keep in mind, this cargo had been unpacked, inspected piece by piece by U.S. Customs officials, resealed and had bomb-sniffing dogs give it a one-hour run through. After two hours of sitting in this holding area, the TSA decided not to reinspect our Cargo–just to inspect us again: Soldiers on the way home from war, who had already been inspected, reinspected and kept in a SECURE holding area for 2 hours. Ok, whatever. So we lined up to go through security AGAIN.

    This is probably another good time to remind you all that all of us were carrying actual assault rifles, and some of us were also carrying pistols.

    So we’re in line, going through one at a time. One of our Soldiers had his Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the Soldier that they’re going to confiscate his nail clippers. The conversation went something like this:

    TSA Guy: You can’t take those on the plane.

    Soldier: What? I’ve had them since we left country.

    TSA Guy: You’re not suppose to have them.

    Soldier: Why?

    TSA Guy: They can be used as a weapon.

    Soldier: [touches butt stock of the rifle] But this actually is a weapon. And I’m allowed to take it on.

    TSA Guy: Yeah but you can’t use it to take over the plane. You don’t have bullets.

    Soldier: And I can take over the plane with nail clippers?

    TSA Guy: [awkward silence]

    Me: Dude, just give him your damn nail clippers so we can get the f**k out of here. I’ll buy you a new set.

    Soldier: [hands nail clippers to TSA guy, makes it through security]

    This might be a good time to remind everyone that approximately 233 people re-boarded that plane with assault rifles, pistols, and machine guns–but nothing that could have been used as a weapon.
     
  2. colmustard

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    Shows you just how stupid pepole in our society have become, ( the book says this and thats waht they do, they cant think for themselves just like abunch of robots) it is a sad state we are in.:mad:
     

  3. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I don't even know what to say. :confused:

    Sometimes I wonder if it's just a "power tripping idiot" acting like that. I CAN make him hand over his nail clippers so I WILL make him hand over his nail clippers. Because obviously it makes no sense any other way.
     
  4. doctherock

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    What a bunch of moronic ass bags.
     
  5. cpttango30

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    I might have been in trouble over all this when I smashed the TSA guys face with the but of my M249 then proceeded to urinate on him. Then I would have screamed PTSD.
     
  6. dunerunner

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    Absurd!! Absolutely Absurd!! This will not, I repeat, Will not deter terrorists. All this does is inconvenience the public.

    The sheeple, however; think this is making air travel safer!!:rolleyes:
     
  7. gregs887

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    How do those flights work? Is it a military aircraft? A chartered passenger aircraft? Are only military personnel onboard?
     
  8. cpttango30

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    This was just state side but when we flew to NTC we always flew on a chartered TWA 747. Senior NCO and Officers got 1st class.

    To disembark everyone and then search them you would think the ranking officer would have stepped up and said shove it TSA.
     
  9. IGETEVEN

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    Never took a commercial transport anywhere while in the military, CONUS or out of country. To this day, if I fly, I always fly standby, military transport, so I never had to put up with any Mickey Mouse, BS searches. :rolleyes:
     
  10. Benning Boy

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    I recall we flew commercial once, with rifles, and we had to stick the bolts in our cargo pockets.

    I'd fly commercial on leave, and did get strip searched once, MPs.

    When I got to my underwear, I explained that I was a grunt, and we weren't going any further. They looked at each other (smaller guys), and decided that that was gonna have to work.
     
  11. bigbad-ratman

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    I love my country... hate the stupid that is breeding within its borders.
     
  12. culdee

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    stupidity rules

    This is so sick I cannot even give a reasonable response. The TSA and our bureaucrats are a bunch of Flaking idiots.
     
  13. IrishRed

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    It's the only way to avoid the TSA morons, except for a private plane. (I bet Pelosi's gonna miss hers! )
    The best flight I ever took was when we flew from RAF Mildenhall UK to Charleston SC on a Galaxy C5. Looking forward to more Space A travel as my husband's retiring soon.

    As for your experience Bigcountry02, that was a disgusting way to treat our Military. I can only imagine what you really wanted to say.....

    I was a Damage Inspector contracted to FEMA for 5 years, I worked every major disaster including Katrina. I was sent to the floods in Iowa in 2008, FEMA booked my one-way flight to Des Moines, as I never know when I will return or by which route.
    I always travel light with one carry-on wheelie case, never with a weapon or anything as dangerous as nail clippers :D
    So on my return trip, also booked by FEMA, I reached security at Des Moines.
    TSA guy looked at me suspiciously (was it the red hair?)
    I walked through the screen, did not sound an alarm.
    TSA guy pulled me aside, asked me a few questions. (Ha! red hair and a funny accent!)
    He told me I would be searched.
    My FEMA photo ID badge was in plain sight, I pointed to it.
    That means I've been through the FBI fingerprint and background checks.
    I politely asked "could you please tell me why you selected me for a search?"
    He said "one way ticket" so I explained why.
    TSA guy shrugged, and repeated I would be searched.
    First the wand, then the groping. I wanted to slap the **** out of that woman, big time.

    Those people sure enjoy their little bit of power, don't they?
     
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2010
  14. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    Yes, indeed a power trip! I am glad to be retired after 26 years in the Air Force. My mouth and family history (Germany, Austria, Hungarian and from dad's side Irish) will not do to go going through TSA.

    Last nasty experience was in 2005 from VA to Germany after an exercise. I sent my laptop through the X-ray and check on the explosives detector machine. Then, the nerve of the TSA wants me to power the laptop up to check it! I said, check the hard drive for content for any illegal, they said "Yes" and I said "NO" and said "Get a warranty for this unlawful search and seizure crap! They had no due reason, except being noisy! I held my ground and they backed off. Since then, when I traveled with my laptop, it had the basics and nothing else!

    The best noisy time was my co-worker carrying classified documents, with carrier letter. They want to open the briefcase, his comment when hell froze over! The exemption letter to them was like reading the English language! We stood our ground with the help of law enforcement (retired military) officer. We left after a 30 minute delay and the TSA thugs upset for not getting they're way!

    It is probably worst in 2010 and they increase in BS factor!
     
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  15. zhuk

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    !?!

    Jesus, that's getting just a little f*cking outrageous I would say.




    This reads like a B-grade comedy script. Idiocy :rolleyes:
     
  16. CGO

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    I forgot to take my breast cancer ribbon pin off. I went through the scanner and all hell broke loose. I think they thought I was going to over take the plane with my little pink pin.