Well, I have been throwing a bit of lead around since my last post and I think I have improved a bit. IMHO I think I need to keep practicing tho. Here are some pics and any advice would be appreciated as always. A bit of info: The red target is from 25yds and the black is from 12.5yds I shoot a G-17 with stock sights and no mods. Rounds are Federals FMJ's. Standing.