another "my first gun" thread

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by moron88, Jun 6, 2012.

  1. moron88

    moron88 New Member

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    well, not really. i already have an old savage 24 in 22lr/20 made in '65 but i may be getting my first new rifle soon. just wondering what y'all thought might be best for me. i'm pretty set on a bolt or lever action because i'm not your typical soon to be 19Y.O. and i dont want to spray a bunch of lead, hoping to hit the broad side of a barn at 2 feet. i'm reasonably capable with a rifle and plan to do some 50+ yard shooting with CCI quiet (supposing the rifle tolerates it) so i need a rifle capable of at least 1-1/2" groups at 75 yards.

    i'm interested in the marlin xt22 (both the tube fed and box mag fed), savage MKII GL ('cause i'm a south paw), standard savage MKII and the Henry lever action. i'm unsure what the gun shops have as i havent really checked either. i remember the big shop had a few cheap .22 bolts, some made by companies i'd never heard of and i cant remember who they were. i'll see about checking them out this weekend and report back with what they have in my price range. in the mean time, what do you think of the guns i've listed?
     
  2. Vincine

    Vincine New Member

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    I've a Savage MkII. It's my only (first?) rifle. I really like it. It has something called an 'Accutrigger' whose break really does surprise me. Or maybe I'm just too dim when concentrating on my sight picture to be aware of my finger moving at the same time. First or second time out with it I got a three or four targets with 1.5" groups at 100 yards bench rest. (Haven't gotten that since though. Wish I bought a truck load of that ammo.)

    However; I wish I had realized the benefits of a tubed rifle. I haven't yet found a comfortable way to hold the rifle with my support hand. The magazine really gets in the way. So unless you only going to shoot with a bi-pod or bags, its something you should consider.
     
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  3. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    I will always recommend the Ruger 10/22. I paid $187 for mine and slapped a cheap 4x scope on it. I can shoot nickel sized groups @ 50 yards rapid fire. It's very accurate and reliable. Still looking for a high cap mag though.
     
  4. Fathead00

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    Ruger has the BX-25 mag out now or are you looking for bigger? I haven't shot my 10/22 yet, but when we get back from vacation I'm gonna shoot it!!!
     
  5. mountainman13

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    I know there are a bunch of options out there. Problem is I'm in ma. It's tough to find mags that have been kicking around the state since 1994.
     
  6. Curlyjoe_99

    Curlyjoe_99 New Member

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    I've shot a savage 22 with accutrigger and a couple of henry lever actions. both are fine examples of rifles.

    however, you did not say if you are planning on shooting from a bench, in the field, or both. based on you wanting small groups and don't mind a slow pace, i would lean toward the bolt actions because i mainly shoot from a bench right now. the Henry's owners always seem to have some issues working the lever while at a shooting bench where i am located. in the field the lever action can be cycled as fast if not faster than a bolt. so more details are requested before truly recommending anything other than more questions and information.
     
  7. moron88

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    sorry for the lack of detail. i'll be shooting off hand and maybe a bit of prone, not much bench shooting. i'm going to be shooting in my back yard. i may see about borrowing my grandpa's lever and bolt to see what fits my shooting area better. i have a small "gallery" area that has a range of about 20 feet. i enjoy shooting spend 20 gauge shells there. in my mind, i'd probably use the bolt more for long distance shooting and the lever in the gallery area. that's just what there rolls are in my head.

    the 4th tree on the left (the farthest one) is about 50 yards from the end of the garage. if i get the urge and climb up on the roof of my shop, i could get close to 100 yards. the yard has been cleaned since.
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    this is the gallery. i'ts a bit more grown in right now, i have to trim the bushes.
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    EDIT: not really interested in semi-auto. i've considered them in the past but i just dont think i'd have as much fun as i would with a bolt or lever. plus i dont know if i'll have the money to get a 10-22. last i checked, they were going for $200 around here and that was some time ago. if money was no object, i'd get a remington 572.
     
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  8. kaido

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    If your still looking for a bolt action, I would suggest you go with the XT-22. I've got one (XT-22R) and its a blast to shoot......well it's my girlfriends but I shoot it just as much as she does. It's been used on a bench and in the field to take out multiple gophers from as close as 5 yards to as far away as ~80 yards. Once you get used to adjust for the drop the rifle is accurate as the shooter is.

    One of the nice things about this rifle is it has iron sites so you don't HAVE to buy a scope before you can use it. It also comes drilled/tapped as well as having a dove tail mount.

    The trigger is smooth and seems a lot like the accu trigger that savage uses. You can also set it from 3-7 pounds.

    Grips shot from sand bags, I'm sure with a better shooter the groups could tighten up.
    (5dhots 25ysrds)
     

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  9. Vincine

    Vincine New Member

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    Your groups are pretty consistent at 1 - 2 o'clock. I wish mine were that tight. Do you have adjustable sights? I bet if you came down & left a 'click' or two, you'd be dead center.
     
  10. big shrek

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    I'm all about Marlin rifles :)

    The XT22 is basically an 800/900 series with a better adjustable trigger and a slightly better synthetic stock than was previously offered.

    On the upside, for those who have older 25N/800/900 Marlins, you can have a gunsmith install the new XT trigger in 'em :)


    As far as speed of reloading a tube-mag, if you use a Spee-D-Loader or some home-made tubes,
    you can reload faster than the average 1022 owner at an Appleseed if you practice a bit :)
     
  11. kaido

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    I would adjust the scope to dead center, but it's my girlfriends rifle and she said that it's hitting dead on for her, so I'll lost her decide when/if she wants to adjust it.

    But I'm sure if you shout off sand bags you could get tighter groups. I've only been shooting since the 26th of December.
     
  12. Curlyjoe_99

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    OK from what you have detailed out, IMHO is to get a tube fed lever action maybe with a 4x scope.

    either a tube or a magazine fed rifle would work for your area. but to me it just seems right to have a lever action with a tube in a "gallery" atmosphere. kind of a combination of the carnival and hunting squirrels & chipmunks with my air rifle as a kid. :D ok even bigger smiles... thanks for that memory lane trip

    Curlyjoe
     
  13. brasskicker

    brasskicker New Member

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    Marlin model 60 is a tube fed semiauto. And its cool looking with the wooden stock.
     
  14. moron88

    moron88 New Member

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    exactly what i was thinking. i wanted the opinion of people who have actually shot in a similar area and could tell me what they found most enjoyable. although, i wouldn't scope the lever, just doesn't look right to me to have a scope on an octagonal barrel.
    the reason i was thinking of the xt22tr was because i could load shorts in it. they wouldnt be terribly accurate but close enough at 10 yards and the gun can hold 26 of them!(25+1)

    1 of the many reasons i dont particularly want a semi-auto is because i like manipulating an action. BANG-BANG-BANG has its appeal but i just think it would get boring quicker.

    we'll be going down to Indiana sometime soon i'm sure so i can ask to borrow the Marlin and what-i-assume-is-a-Henry then. the marlin is an older box mag bolt but i dont know which one. i have reason to believe it's older than me because he said he bought it to replace the one he lost in a divorce and he's been married to my grandma since before i was born. i was born in '93. makes you feel old, doent it? a kid younger than some of your socks is old enough to buy firearms!
     
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  15. kaido

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    I'm not to sure how the TR would load shorts, but I've tried to run a box through the R and they didn't seem to want to cycle all to well. But a box is cheap so feel free to try, you might hav better results.

    I hear you on the semi-auto thing. I've got a 702 plinkster and after 2-3 magazines I find myself itching to use my girl friends rifle.

    Man, am I happy to hear I'm not the only young guy on here who's nuts about shooting. I was also born in '93 only difference between me and you.....I've already bought 4 long guns. Lmao
    (1 shut gun, 1 .243 and 2 .22LRs)
     
  16. moron88

    moron88 New Member

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    marlin's website says it'll load shorts, it's tube feed after all. only issue i have with them is you have to scrub the chamber after shooting them. easy to do on my gun, the chamber is wide open when you load it and can be removed in 15 seconds, but it wont be as easy with a more enclosed chamber.

    the only reason it's taken me this long to get a second gun is that i dont have my drivers license yet. i may get it this month (hopefully). it's a pain to get ammo, having to get my mom to go to the gun shop with me when she doesnt exactly approve.
     
  17. kaido

    kaido New Member

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    Ooh, well the tube fed version might be better designed for shorties then the magazine fed one.

    I feel your pain there, I had to get a friend to drive me to the gun shop when I picked up three of my guns. But that was only because I didn't have a vehicle. My step mom only half approves, she doesn't care if I go out shooting, but tends to give the whole "you could spend your money better" and "what do you need a gun for?" lectures at points. Also can't keep them in my house.
     
  18. TooStrongTerry

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    Get a henry...they shoot short/long/lr and out of all the firearms I've ever shot I have had more fun with that thing then any thing. For real. I'm hitting golf balls consistantly at 40+ yards. And it is a HOOT to shoot. Bolt actions are cool I guess...I'm not a fan. Alot of people want .00002 inch groups with bolts and shoot at paper all day...I've taken my henry through the woods and its super light and remarkably quick to acquire targets. I wouldn't sell it for anything (unless I had enough to buy a new one:p) if u don't want to scope it (like I didn't) this is the gun for u. I'm extremely surprised cuz everyone on thia forum suggested a genry and on this thread there's not too many henry supporters!! Where y'all at!! Nobody I've talked to that has one has ever said they regretted the purchase. For the record I had a mk2 in left handed...I sold it a month later...got a henry. Bolts in the woods and on trails and small game hunting don't seem right to me....in my head it seems like u have to sit and post with one. Call me nuts w/e. Go Henry...made in America or not at all ;)
     
  19. WebleyFosbery38

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    My first was an Ithaca 22 single shot lever action saddle gun. I was 9 years old and it was the greatest thing ever! I carried on my bike, mini bike, fishing and whenever I felt like it. Killed a thousand pigeons and squirrels with it and still have it today. It still has the occasion to whack a muskrat or two out of my pond!


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  20. moron88

    moron88 New Member

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    thanks for all the help. i'll have to wait til next month at the earliest to get anything as i'm not getting as much money as i thought this month and i've got other things to get first. plus i should be getting some form of photo id soon so i can get the gun myself, i wont have to convince my mom to "buy" the gun.