And The Wait Begins

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Txhillbilly, Dec 6, 2013.

  1. Txhillbilly

    Txhillbilly Active Member

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    I ordered the barrel for the 6.5-06 that I'm going to build today. I ordered a McGowen 26" Stainless with a Shilen 5.5 contour,a 1-8 twist,and bead blasted finish.
    I wanted to buy a Shilen,but they only offer the 6.5-06 AI,and I didn't want the Ackley Improved chamber.
    I ordered a stock from Boyds last week.A LH feather weight thumbhole. Since they only offer it in a Center feed set-up,and my action is a Staggered feed,I ordered it unfinished. I will need to open up the magazine box channel a little,plus I'll have to open up the barrel channel for the new barrel.
    The stock should be here in a couple weeks,so I can get the action fitted in it,and I can also change out the bolt head,magazine box,and follower on the action.
    The Redding Type S Bushing dies and 200 pieces of brass are in,so I can get started on forming the 6.5-06 brass. I'm going to see which brass is the easiest to deal with.I'll have to trim the necks on the 270 brass,but shouldn't need to ream the necks.I know I'll have to ream the necks on the 30/06 brass since the necks will get thicker when they are necked down.
    I ordered a couple .264 neck reamer bits from Midway,and they will be here in a couple days-depending on this ice storm we're having right now.

    This is going to be a fun build,and hopefully,it will be an excellent shooter!
     
  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    looking forward to seeing the build Hillbilly and wishing you good luck with it.

    just from a measurement standpoint, i personally was thinking of going from a 25-06 to a 6.5mm.
     

  3. Txhillbilly

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    I could easily resize 25/06,but since I shoot a bunch of 25/06,I figured it would just be better to neck down brass for the 6.5-06.
    Once I get some loads worked up for this rifle,I'll buy some Nosler or Lapua brass just for this rifle.
     
  4. ColdIron44

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    I recently opened up a Boyd's Varmint Thumbhole to accept a bull barrel and I'll be damned for doing it. Their wood laminate is so strong I felt like I was trying to cut diamonds with a butter knife. I worked an hour a night for 3 weeks getting the inletting perfect, so please post your method of wood laminate work to spare me that trouble next time! I'm looking forward to hearing how that caliber performs for you as well. 6.5-06, it just makes so much sense. Good luck!
     
  5. TLuker

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    That does sound like a fun project. Please post the results. I can't wait to hear some more about it. :)
     
  6. 303tom

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    Why would you want two rounds that are basically the same ?................
     
  7. Txhillbilly

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    I've never had any problems doing it. It does take some time,but if you use the right tools,it is easy to do.
    Boyd's only makes sporter barreled stocks for us that shoot LH,so every stock I buy from them has to be worked over,plus on the Thumbhole stocks,I file/sand the handgrip to fit my hand just right.
    I just use some foot long pieces of 3/4" & 1" pvc pipe with 80-100 grit sandpaper to cut out the barrel channel,and then finish it out with finer grains of sandpaper.
    On the outer sides of the stock,I use files to shape the stock and also those foam sanding blocks in different grades.
    I think it took me a couple days to get my stock fitted/formed on my Savage 12FLVSS 223 when I did it a few years ago.
    I also buy my stocks un-finished from Boyds,that way when I get done shaping the outer parts of the stock,I can put a complete finish on them,and make it look like it wasn't worked on.

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  8. Txhillbilly

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    It doesn't take long to get the barrel channel enlarged,and by using a piece of pvc pipe,you can keep everything sanded down straight.
    I also make sure the tang area of the action is free floated,but make it look like it's setting on the stock.

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    I also contoured the stock around the back of the action,and knocked off all the square edges.
     
  9. Txhillbilly

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    The time consuming part of doing the stock is putting the finish on it.
    I use Tung Oil for all of my stock finishes,and usually put 10-12 coats on them,so it takes 10-12 days to do the finish. I also buff the stock between coats with 0000 steel wool,and then wipe it down with a lint free cloth before putting on the next coat.
    But when you get done,you will have a very nice looking stock,and you can also change how dull or shiny the finish is by the grade of steel wool you use between coats.

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    I also did the finish on my Boyd's Evolution stock on my 10/22. This is the same color of stock that will be going on the 6.5-06.

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  10. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    very nice job Hillbilly! very nice indeed. :D

    i remember that 10/22!:p that is one sweet rimfire!
     
  11. Txhillbilly

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    There is hardly any thing comparable between a 25/06 and a 6.5-06.Other than sharing the same parent case,there are nothing alike.
    The 25/06 is a great long range varmint rifle,and an excellent deer sized game hunting rifle,but it's limited in it's bullet range- 75 grain to 120 grain bullets,and they don't come close to the high Ballistic Coefficients of any 6.5mm bullets.
    The 6.5mm will shoot bullets from 85 grain to 160 grain.
    The 6.5mm family far exceed's anything the 25/06 could ever do in terms of ballistics,and can take game from varmints to moose. Yes,moose,the Europeans have been taking moose for many decades with the 6.5x55 Swede,and the 6.5-06 is just a faster version of it.

    So,I guess with your way of thinking,I shouldn't also have a 308-30/06-and 300 WM in my safe since they all shoot the same size bullet!
     
  12. Axxe55

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    i agree. i have been a fan of the 25-06 for many years now, getting my first one in about the early 1990's IIRC. but after learning abot the 6.5-06 and the 6.5mm calibered cartridges, i became a believer in them. the first one i ever shot in a 6.5mm was a Winchester M70 Featherlight in 6.5x55. absolutely fell in love with it.

    sadly, i currently own nothing in 6.5mm and that makes me sad andlong for one even more. i got on the 7mm kick several years ago and at some point would like to add a 6.5mm to join my metrics!

    TXhillbilly, i am looking forward to your build in many ways. i have read some and done some research on the 6.5-06, and it has interested me for a several years now, but have not known anyone that actually owned and shot one. i am looking forward to learnng from your firsthad experiance with the gun and cartridge. second, after seeing some of your other builds, i know it's going to be a great rifle when you get finished with it.
     
  13. Txhillbilly

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    Since I was off work yesterday,I decided to set-up my 6.5-06 dies and form some brass from the 270 Winchester brass I bought. This is a simple,but time consuming process. I have a Redding forming die that came with my Redding Type S Bushing die set,and I also bought a RCBS trim die.
    First you run the case in the forming die,and then in the trim die.The necks on 270 brass are longer than other 30/06 family brass,so you just take a file,and file the case down to the top of the trim die,then chamfer the inner and outer edges.
    This picture shows how much needs to be trimmed off-

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    Here's the case after it has been filed off in the die-

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    On the left is a 270 Winchester case,on the right a formed and trimmed 6.5-06 case-

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    After I finished forming/trimming all 100 cases,I set-up my neck sizing bushing die,and ran all of them through it. I then cleaned the primer pockets,de-burred all of the flash holes,and wiped the Imperial sizing wax off the cases. Now,I have 100 pcs of 6.5-06 brass ready to load.

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    I'm waiting on UPS to bring me my neck reamer,then I'll form the 30/06 brass I have.The necks will get too thick when they are necked down into 6.5-06.
    After I build up some loads for the rifle,I'll compare how each type of brass performs,and then choose which way will work best for this caliber.
     
  14. Txhillbilly

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    My neck reamers came in,but after I formed and ran the 30/06 brass through the Redding bushing neck sizing dies,I measured the thickness of the necks and they are good to go without reaming. So,now I have 200 pieces of 6.5-06 brass ready to load.
    Yesterday,UPS finally delivered my stock from Boyds. I ordered it unfinished since I'll need to inlet the barrel channel and also the magazine inlet area. I'll try to get some unaltered pics up in a day or two.
    I'm only off work tomorrow,and I'll be hunting!
     
  15. Txhillbilly

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    Today,I started working on the stock and also installed the magazine box on the action,and took apart the bolt assembly and replaced the firing pin,and bolt head for the new caliber. Since I have my Magnum contour barrel on the 300 WM right now,I can fit the action to the stock without needing to take the barrel off.
    Here's what the stock looks like with the barreled action in it. The stock is unfinished,since I will need to do some inletting on it,and I also like to shape the stock to fit my hands perfectly.

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  16. Txhillbilly

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    I needed to open up the magazine box area of the stock since it's made for a Center feed magazine action,and mine is an older Staggered feed magazine action.
    You can see in the pics,I need to remove about a 1/4" of material at the front of the magazine area.

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    I just used a Dremel tool with a cutting bit,and took out the area that needed to be removed.

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    I then removed the 300 WM magazine box from the action,and installed the 30/06 magazine box on it. Then checked to see if I needed to remove anymore material from the stock. It fit just fine,so I installed the action screws,and checked everything out again. It was good to go!


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    Next,Rebuilding the bolt assembly.
    I took apart the bolt completely,not only does the bolt head need changing,the firing pin also needs to be changed since the 30/06 pin is a smaller diameter than the 300 WM.
    If you don't know how to disassemble a Savage bolt,look on Youtube,there are many video's showing you how.

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    This is the 30/06 bolt head,and extractor/ejector parts.

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    When installing a firing pin,you will need to check/adjust the length the firing pin extends through the bolt head for proper primer ignition on the cases.

    After putting the bolt back together,I put it back into the action,and checked the functions of it out. Good to go!

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  19. Txhillbilly

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    A few more pics of the thing -

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    Now,I will start shaping and sanding on the stock,and wait for the 6.5-06 barrel to get here. Then I can shape the barrel channel out,and finish the stock.
     
  20. bradam

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    Is there anything that you cannot do on a savage?:)