And here comes the inevitable hell.

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by Ghost1958, Jun 4, 2020.

  1. ellis36

    ellis36 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    The big question might be
    "Will there be enough white tourist marks to keep a Casino economy going? :D


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  2. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    SCOTUS for once made the correct decision.
    The government basically forced the treaty, gave its word on paper, and should be bound by that treaty. There is no time limit applicable to that treaty.
     
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  3. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    This was an issue of holding the Federal gov to a treaty it willingly entered into with no time limit.
    It should be held to its word. Which it rarely is.
     
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  4. schnuffleupagus

    schnuffleupagus Well-Known Member

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    Then we are on the verge of the splintering of the republic. SD and ND revert back to the Lakota. Georgia reverts back to the Cherokee. Eastern Colorado and Wyoming to the Cheyenne. Idaho back to the Nez Perce. And the east coast returns to all of those tribes.

    People who have lived here for centuries will become strangers in a strange land.

    ...Where rape is legal
     
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  5. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    It may be uncomfortable, but is uncomfortable a reason to allow the gov to enter treaties it basically forced on a group of people , promising the full faith of the gov to honor, to break that legally binding treaty??

    My opinion no it's not. The Fed has been allowed over the decades to play fast and loose with promises, and the COTUS to much already.

    As far as splintering the nation it's already splintered and getting worse by the hour .
    I doubt this decision will cause anything before we are plunged into a civil or revolutionary war.
     
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  6. G66enigma

    G66enigma Well-Known Member

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    Yet another example of someone attempting murder of police officers, who gets stopped during the crime.

    Of course, there was "outrage" and howling on the streets, in Detroit, as soon as many became aware of the situation. This occurred Friday (yesterday). The Detroit PD released the dash cam video footage, soon after, to dispel misunderstanding and assumptions about what this was.


    Detroit police release body camera footage of fatal officer-involved shooting @ ClickOnDetroit, 7/10/2020.


    Of course, the dashcam video footage shows something entirely different. And apparently fairly clear-cut.


    The officers are lucky to be alive.

    As for the perp: probably should have had more than a .25, and probably should have learned to shoot better. I'll bet his parents are really proud of him, right now. :rolleyes:

    Another typical day in the city, these days.

    Keep yer powder dry. It's ugly out there.
     
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  7. G66enigma

    G66enigma Well-Known Member

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    Indeed, it'll probably all end up, eventually (for all humankind), where it began. The land and animals belong to themselves. We are but temporary residents passing through.

    Of course, inject human "ingenuity" and "intelligence" and "greed" into a situation ... and you get conquering of others, despoiling, taking of lands, properties and lives. It's how "life" functions, in a world of scarce resources. The "fittest" animals go hunting for food, a place to stay, a territory ... and they take it, if they need it and can do so. Humans aren't exempt from that basic way.

    As for resurrecting history and rolling back "ownership" to whenever, I doubt it's possible. It's such a tangle, and there's no way to know when to stop, when "justice" has been attained. We're all temporary residents, back to the dawn of time.

    I'd like to hope that people find their minds, in all of this. 'Cause for the moment it seems altogether too many have lost theirs.

    What a world. A "hell" of our own making, basically.
     
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  8. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I hope you don't die in a civilized hell.

     
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  9. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    How did you get pass the dog and catch me and a couple neighbors in my back yard???!!!!!!!!
     
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  10. schnuffleupagus

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    Back when I was in the Balkans, wondering why I was in the Balkans I wondered why we were supporting an ethnic minorities claim on a city that they had lost in the 1700's. I had made the statement to the local QRF leader at the time it would be similar to supporting a claim of Mexico asserting its claim on San Diego.

    If we do not recognize some sort of historo-normative borders we will, all of us, revert to a fragmented clanish countryside.

    And then the blue eyes from the north return to their viking ways, behaving as their viking ancestors, forsaking all others. Then after 3 billion people die of starvation and anarchy we will find ourselves back at 1710 only worse because we will not know how to do what they did.

    ...but at least rape will be legal.
     
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  11. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    Respectfully, the United States Government honoring a treaty that it willingly entered into , setting the boundaries of land set aside for Native Americans with no time limit set is simply the honest and correct thing it should have always done without being forced by a court to be as good as its word.
    The Fed has blessed little credibility left with the American people as it is.
     
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  12. locutus

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    There is not going to be a civil war.

    The tiny little handful of radical extremists out on the extreme left and the extreme right are less than ten percent of the population.

    The extremists think they want shooting war, but no one else does.
     
  13. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Well-Known Member Supporter

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    As long as the EBT cards stay fully charged.
     
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  14. schnuffleupagus

    schnuffleupagus Well-Known Member

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    Right, and China said it wouldn't F-over HongKong until 2050? But the US Government will have the moral highground! Sticking to its principles at the expense of the people that the government is meant to protect and defend; to its own demise.
    Look, when I was 5 my dad promised me a motorcycle, do I have claim on that motorcycle 50 years later?

    There was no mention about making rape legal when he promised the motorcycle though.

    I hope you are right...

    3% of motivated, dedicated people will control the destiny of the other 97%
     
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  15. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I am just waiting for Loc to post about the Cheyenne or Shoshone putting gates on that free gubmint land.
     
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  16. Ghost1958

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    Apples and moon rocks.

    Did dad put in writing on a legal official contract that he would get you a bike ?
    If so yeah he owes you a bike


    We are talking about a treaty here. Not some vague verbal promise.

    A legal, binding contract with no time limit between the Native Americans involved and the Fed.
    They are Americans too are they not?
    The Fed as sworn to protect them as much as you or me.

    Or would we rather the federal government have absolutely no credibility at all even concerning binding treaties etc.
     
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  17. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    You dont get out much or keep up much with actual goings on in this country do you.

    We are right now in a limited form of civil war and getting less limited everyday.
     
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    Portland, Oregon is supposed to be the headquarters for Antifa, my feeling is that they are just rebranded Anarchists, Antifa sounds so much more civilized, far as I'm concerned, they're terrorists. The Anarchist trouble makers were also headquartered in Portland, sorry "trouble makers" is too kind of a description, actually they are scumbags that needed the crap beat out of them and I think it's fair to say that Antifa is no better.
     
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  19. Missouribound

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    Once upon a time there was a country named The United States of America.
    If democrats have their way that will be a story in the history books in 2050.
     
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  20. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    The hard fact is we are lucky that we live in a still standing United States.

    No nation. None . 0. Has ever stood secure and lasted under the government it was founded to have.
    We as a nation are comparatively young. Yet we have allowed this nation to begin its fall from within. Led by lawyers and courts continually working to undermine the only hope this nation has of not following every other into history.
    Strick adherence to the COTUS as written. That document changed only by the one prescribed route. A constitutional amendment. Not changed by whimsical courts interpretations, or precedent .

    I fear we have watered that document down until we have reached the point of no return.
     
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