And here comes the inevitable hell.

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by Ghost1958, Jun 4, 2020.

  1. G66enigma

    G66enigma Well-Known Member

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    'You’ve been warned': Florida sheriff says he may deputize gun owners against protesters @ USA Today, 7/1/20.

     
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  3. schnuffleupagus

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    The shooter will get charged. The threat ended when the intruder fled. Stuff like this happened in 2019 as well
     
  4. G66enigma

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    Looks like it, if those details are as reported.

    Of course, that's why folks go to court. That "ongoing history" of "terrorizing" by that neighbor meant they were privy to certain knowledge about the guy and whatever prior threats/acts he might have committed.

    Still, heading after someone is, at least on the face of it, bad. If he was in the process of heading to the next block to "get" a relative or friend dear to those folks ,then one might be able to claim some sort of justification. But, at this point without any evidence specified for anything like that, it's hard to justify. Sounds like an execution, to ensure further "terrorizing" wouldn't occur from the guy. Well, apparently he got his wish. At a price. Likely a very ugly one.

    All kinds of nasty stuff happening, this spring and summer. Nobody seems to tolerate a thing, anymore, and everyone's prepared to go to the mat for the least damned thing. Of course, this one was violent B&E from a known perp with prior history, so halting him (right then and there) had every justification. Sounds like a tough argument to make, that following him down the street could be justifiable.
     
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  5. Ghost1958

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    Its justifiable using common sense.

    Probably not LEGALLY justifiable.

    But then legalities have little to do with common sense or reality.
     
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  6. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Chasing people down the street and shooting at them is not justifiable by any stretch. And CERTAINLY not by common sense.
     
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  7. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    Your opinion which I respect and your entitled too.
    Mine is different.
    Chasing " people " down the street isnt common sense.

    Chasing and dealing with a person who has just broken into ones home and habitually is terrorizing a neighbor hood is common sense. Police do it all the time.

    However in most cases its not legal.
    Which is where laws and realities leave each others company.
    JMO.
     
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  8. formerCav

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    you must be dreaming. They are not going to post anything that does not fit their agenda.
    at the moment, their agenda is "get rid of Trump"
    nothing but a bunch of commie traitors!
     
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  9. G66enigma

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    A good op-ed article warning about mob-driven warfare for "hearts and minds."

    Something that could easily engulf contemporary societies, if we aren't careful.


    Remember the Red Guards Before You Cheer the Woke Mobs @ The American Conservative, 7/7/20.

     
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    Quote from the article:
    "...Whetted, the mobs took the task to heart: Red Guards destroyed historical relics, statues, and artifacts, and ransacked cultural and religious sites. Libraries were burned. Religion was considered a tool of capitalists and so churches were destroyed—even the Temple of Confucius was wrecked. Eventually the Red Guards moved on to openly killing people who did not think as they did. Where were the police? The cops were told not to intervene in Red Guard activities, and if they did, the national police chief pardoned the Guards for any crimes.....

    Sound familiar???


    ellis

    Quote "... in the name of free speech “hate speech” is banned, and in the name of safety dangerous ideas and the people who hold them are not only not discussed but canceled, shot down via the projectile of the heckler’s veto, unfriended, demonetized, deleted, de-platformed, demeaned, chased after by mobs both real and online in a horrible blend of self-righteousness and cyber bullying.

    They don’t believe in a marketplace of ideas. Ideas to the mob are either right or wrong and the “wrong” ones must be banished. The choices to survive the mobs are conformity or silence. In China, you showed conformity by carrying around Mao’s Little Red Book. In America, you wear a soiled surgical mask to the supermarket...."
     
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  11. G66enigma

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    An "open" letter penned in Harper's Magazine, on the problem of silencing dissenters and the shutting down of the free exchange of ideas.

    Perhaps there's a minor awakening going on, on the "liberal" side of things. Perhaps it's merely another "call to arms" for going after the current "leadership" for their causing things to happen.

    Time will tell.


    A Letter on Justice and Open Debate @ Harper's Magazine, 7/7/20.

     
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    then, mate, since you have rationalized the suggestion i proposed to notify the “troubleshooter” community issues group of your local tv news outlet in your area to let them discuss it on the air with the blue brotherhood group is not worthy of your time OR effort then i further suppose you really lose your opportunity to whine about the issue whatsoever in the first place...now don’t you!
     
  13. G66enigma

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    Another hellish aspect of all this "change" people are peddling.

    Power and control. First, control. Same ol', same ol'. If they can get away with it.


    The Media’s War on Words @ National Review, 7/8/2020.

     
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    Not exactly part of the so-called "cancel culture" trend, perhaps, but a remarkable ruling by SCOTUS none the less.

    As part of a SCOTUS decision on a crime committed by a man, apparently it's been determined that the land on which the act occurred was, or should have been acknowledged as, Native American tribal land. Evaluating the treaty promises given to the people, over the years, it's been determined that yes, it's their land. Roughly the eastern half of the state of OK, including the Tulsa area.

    Which might beg the question: So what about all the other land that was taken and possessed by new arrivals, aside from that particular "reservation" land? Most particularly, any in dispute with botched "treaty" agreements.

    The opinion was written by Justice Gorsuch, joining the four liberal justices (Justices Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan).


    U.S. Supreme Court deems half of Oklahoma a Native American reservation @ Reuters, 7/9/20.

     
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    This is going to open a can of Boone and Crockett worms.
     
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    Maybe it will eventually shake out that Caucasian Americans have no title to anything. That "we" should have stayed in England where we belonged. That it was all taken illegally in some fashion. By force, by illegal treaties, by "shining on" the naive, peace-loving Indians with malice aforethought? That without interference from white people this land would be a great Indian Nation serving as a shining example for the rest of the world! Full of bluebirds and buttercups!

    What next? Ancestry searches for descendants of families who owned slaves to lose inherited land and property?

    Barbarians are truly at the gates to destroy this country. And it reaches from the highest levels of government down to the cretins rioting in the streets.....who are for the most part "just following orders."

    ellis
     
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  17. Gatoragn

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    I want my cut of what the Romans took from my Scotch Irish ancestors.
     
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    It is peculiar that a post-industrial society court is holding post-industrial society responsible for the acts of the newly industrialized society taken against a stone age society.

    Should we recognize that the Mexican War of 1848 was the wicked progeny of a false-flag operation by the United States and return that to Mexico?

    What is the statute of limitations on breaking a treaty?

    It reminds me of Worchester v Georgia,
    "Justice Roberts has made his decision now let him enforce it"

    Oh, and now rape is defacto legal in eastern Oklahoma. Now EVERY rapist in prison in eastern Oklahoma has a path toward freedom.
    Those sage thinkers on the Supreme Court.
     
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  19. locutus

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    Maybe Phil Sheridan was right???:p
     
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    "When the war first started I thought a cavalryman should be at least 6 feet in height, but, after careful consideration, 5 foot 5 will do in a pinch" AL on Gen. Sheridan
     
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