And here comes the inevitable hell.

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by Ghost1958, Jun 4, 2020.

  1. Missouribound

    Missouribound Well-Known Member

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    While the left is trying to change history by removing statues, re-writing school books and glorifying thug anarchist groups, maybe it's time we take the one step to stop all of this nonsense.
    Get rid of the democrat party.
    After all it was democrats who started the KKK, it is democrats who fund home grown terrorist groups by proxy and in reality and it is democrats who refuse to do anything about the situation they have created. They continually brag about supporting illegals.
    They continually try to change the very foundation of the country by wanting to change the constitution. They pander to every criminal organization as long as they are supporters of their progressive cause. They hand out billions to illegals every year, when citizenship can be had for about $1000 legally if you actually give a crap enough about the USA to be here.
    They claim to care about black lives....but are silent when the black lives lost are taken by other blacks 99% of the time. They only take a stand when the politics, and the votes help them.
    Getting rid of the democrat party is the most patriotic thing we can ever do.
     
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  2. freefall

    freefall Well-Known Member

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    So declare them a terrorist org?
    Yah, that'll fly.
     

  3. RKtullahoma

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    Good pieces. If I get enough $ before Der Tag, I will be getting their cousin the 535... 3.5" chambering for bigger shells putting more downrange. With, as you described, twin saddles. 3.5" #4.

    I devoutly wish that there was a 3.5" version of the excellent Winchester Defender round (Buck and ball in the 21st century). at a guess probably 6 or 9 plated #00 balls on top of the 1 oz slug, where the basic 2.75" Defender has 3.

    Oh, and ordering a 22" drop in barrel. I dont need some soy cop with a rubber ruler trying to call 18.5", 17.75".

    This aint to say that this little fraction of Tennessee isn't defended. The above 535 is just a welcome extra.
     
  4. RKtullahoma

    RKtullahoma Well-Known Member Supporter

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    No, not really a gun store to be sure.

    NOT by preference of those of us on the pointy end WHO ACTUALLY DO KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, tyvm.

    I've been standing in front of Walmart guns for a decade, give or take. It angered me no end in 2015 when the as****es in Bentonville pulled pistol grip shotguns and AR platforms. Then the damned stupidity of disallowing sales even of ammunition to under 21s, just so as to get their face in the paper after the Parkland shooting. Then the "Halloween massacre"... all our contracts with pistol and hicap ammo cut off by Bentonville, and only able to sell what was left in the pipeline and warehouses. It finally ran out in late January 2020. (Note that WM was the NINTH largest retail seller of pistol ammo in the country, $5 BILLION in sales... and they just chucked it away.)

    The cowardly removal of guns from cases (but not from being sold... go figure) is just another in a line of firearms stupidities.

    For all this I get to deal with a every-two-years background check, and stand around in a testing center to pee in a cup, cause multibillion dollar WM is too effing cheap to cut loose for a blood test. Never mind RIAH. and then to come up and pay for access to fora where me and mine are impugned for our level of knowledge for what we sell.

    An apology would be nice... but I know better.
     
  5. G66enigma

    G66enigma Well-Known Member

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    An opinion piece on the riotous mob, and what it means to our future if we allow it.

    The Silent Majority can be silent no more @ Fox News, 6/20/20.


     
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  6. G66enigma

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    With all the bronze, marble and other statutes getting pulled down or otherwise destroyed, it's a wonder that cities or states haven't yet arrested, charged and billed the perps for what's undoubtedly tens of $thousands (or even hundreds of $thousands) of dollars' worth of destruction of public property. All caught on camera. Some of which have been done in full view of members of LE or the town's officials.

    Ulysses S. Grant just got yanked and destroyed, out in San Francisco. Nary a soul condemned or arrested. Not a thing being done, so far. (Doubt anything will. "Woke" as officialdom is, out there. Can't be biting the hands that "feed" them, don't ya know.)

    EDIT: spelling corrections of spell-checker. Dang, but I hate those things.
     
  7. Sniper03

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    Despite all the attention and onesided line of thought. The majority of Americans including Coretta Scott King of Martin Luther Kings family has said the Statues should not be removed or torn up. We should study why they were put up in the first place and learn from history.
    Quote;
    "Tearing or taking them down is not accomplishing a thing!". Only driving a wedge between us. SMART LADY!
    Bottom line, all this started with Barack and Holder initiating the wedge between Blacks and Whites setting things back at least 50 years. For example wanting the officer to apologize to his friend the college professor, Trayvon Martin , Michael Brown and attacks on the law and officers. When one attacks an officer physically issues can be expected. Some simply need to have respect for all and others needed lessons in social contacts!
    Bottom line, They are definitely at this time accomplishing their deep state plan of dividing Americans. The tearing down and destruction of History and a;;owing anarchy to exist only flaming the torch of most good people. I wonder how long we are going to tolerate this
    BS? OH how much does BLM. First of all ALL LIVES MATTER. In a black neighborhood yesterday a little girl was watching TV and was hit in the neck and died. Also a baby was killed setting in a car with his dad! Black LIVES MATTER? They all better be looking in their own back yard! And "yes" IMO the cop in Wisconsin deserves everything he deserves. He was a disgrace to the Badge! But allowing these little puke socialists and anarchists to do what they are presently doing needs to stop one way or the other. If excessive force is required so be it!:rolleyes:

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  8. Missouribound

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    If you think about MLK and what he stood for he is just a token for todays black leaders.
    He never told the blacks that they deserved anything except respect. And he made that point by saying that they had to earn it. What he said was the only way for black people to achieve anything was by their own perseverance. He didn't want handouts, just a level playing field. Black leaders use his assassination just like the current thugs use Floyd's death as a reason to riot, loot and burn. That was never King's message.
    King was the last real hope for black equality. He knew the proper road to take.
    Rabble rousers like Sharpton, Jackson and the dimwit democrats never agreed with King.
    They want special treatment with no accountability. King was the last black leader to lift up the race. Sharpton, Jackson and oddities like Louis Farrakhan, along with the Rev. Wright who Obama worshipped rely on race baiting and constant referrals to white supremacy and slavery. These are the people responsible for what is happening all over the country since Floyd's death and the atrocities the blacks do to each other in the inner cities.
    And now statues are being torn down, law enforcement suddenly are the bad guys and democrat leaders do nothing because it's their voter base.
    It's a shameful time. We could be on the verge of the kind of vigilantism towards blacks that existed in the south in the 50's and 60's.
    The country is in trouble. It's far from over.
     
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  9. G66enigma

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    A disturbing situation, in Tampa (FL). From news over the past several weeks, such ambushes are apparently trending. Quite the thing to do, to get a couple of LEOs into a dangerous (even deadly) situation.

    Ugly.

    Insurrection. No other word for it.


    Hundreds ‘ambush’ Tampa police responding to report of shots fired, 2 officers injured, chief says @ Fox News, 6/23/2020.


    About the only thing in the Constitution about "insurrection" is in the powers of Congress to call up the militia. Of course, in this day and age there's local policing and the National Guard. People rising up to quell insurrection has become passé.

    I certainly hope such violent rioting gets dealt with extremely harshly, and that everyone involved feels the full weight of the law upon them. Else it's going to continue. The rabble-rousers feel "empowered" with impunity, right now.
     
  10. manta

    manta Well-Known Member Supporter

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    They should be tough with rioters looters etc, will it stop the unrest who knows.
     
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  11. G66enigma

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    Sure.

    Though, the perfect recipe to getting such violence to continue is to incentivize it. That ain't workin', no matter how one slices it.

    This *****-footing around, with the protests, failing to deal with the most-violent end of it the way such violent individuals should be dealt with, just helps support a "Crime does pay after all" mentality. I appreciate the conundrum towns are in, in checking such behavior. Heck, you dare question a violent person who's "protesting" and you're instantly accused of "dumping on" the cause. (Like the shop-owner in the news who apparently was helping provide info to LE in an attempt to track down violent rioters ... her place was trashed, she's received death threats, and she's been told in no uncertain terms they'll be coming back for her and her place due to "helping LE.")

    It's a mess. Whatever else can be said. But lightly dealing with the most-violent folks involved can't possibly help.
     
  12. Nmwabbit

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    G66enigma, et al, in 2006 the seated congress changed the Insurrection Act of 1807, which was enacted “...to foil Burr’s plot to invade & capture Mexico territory for himself!

    Might worry with the type of conversation going on here not from the constitution but interpretations 2006 changes of 18 us code chapter 15, 2383 > 2385!
     
  13. G66enigma

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    Likely slanted as many news stories are, to make it seem much more dire and threatening this this one probably is, but still. Another example of people arming-up and "disallowing" police into an area. This time, in Atlanta (GA).


    Armed Atlanta protesters near Rayshard Brooks shooting site say cops not allowed there @ Fox News, 6/24/20.

    ^ That last is a nice touch. Something I wish every single citizen in the U.S. would do. At no point allowing our RKBA to be fooled with. As it should be.

    Of course, insurrection (if that's what it is in this instance) -- forcibly disallowing the lawful functioning of government -- that's something else.

    It's getting "sporty" out there. A lot of people refusing to deal any longer. Good and bad coming from all of that, likely, getting much worse before it improves.
     
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  14. primer1

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    My interpretation of the armed citizens in this instance is they are guarding an illegal road block. The police need to respond in greater numbers to remove the road block.
     
  15. G66enigma

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    To say nothing of the unfettered, uncontrolled "autonomous" zone in Seattle. Apparently, the Mayor is considering erasing the thing. Too many violent crimes, lately, in that "autonomous" area.

    Rock and a hard place, for police, this month. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Damned if they lift a finger, protect people, react forcefully to lawlessness, propose substantive changes, whatever. Death threats, ambushes, and all the rest.

    I agree. Vastly greater force to go after outright violent lawlessness, insurrection, and other nasty fringes of such "protests." Else there'll be precious few incentives for the violent lawbreakers to do anything else.
     
  16. Nmwabbit

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    blue brotherhood protect its citizens and their property...nope...they do not have to respond!

    As previous mentioned in 2005 the highest court in the land, USSC, has ruled in cases, DeShaney vs. Winnebago and Town of Castle Rock vs. Gonzales, the blue brotherhood has no duty nor obligation to protect community's citizens from real or perceived bad guys.

    please can we not not keep spreading this URBAN myth since the folks in the blue brotherhood are NOT there to "XXXXXXX and Serve" anybody -- no matter what the Union reps keep saying!
     
  17. Ghost1958

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    The much dispised by some word vigilante will probably be the only way the taking of sections of cities etc is stopped.

    The police are not going to be able to do so . Much of the public has removed its permission to be controlled by the police, and armed themselves , which renders police irrelevant. There have always been sections of cities police wouldn't go after dark. This is simply bigger
    Their catch phrase now is observing from a distance.

    BLM etc have been successfully sent packing with no damages by towns who rallied armed citizens, and MCs, to gather and convince the boogies their health was better served else where.

    NG with LE are not going to do anything , except maybe make the situation worse.
     
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  18. manta

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  19. G66enigma

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    DC protesters attempt to set up autonomous zone outside White House @ Fox News, 6/24/20.

    Well, well.

    Yet another attempt to spontaneously create a spot that's deliberately independent of the rule of law, ostensibly having the freedom to control its own affairs, a zone operating without direct human control. Yeah. Seattle's found out just how wonderful and glorious those things can be.

    And so the beat goes on.

    I wonder, if this gets violent, assaulting everyone around, whether water cannon vehicles or other riot dispersal mechanisms will be employed. Something that'll stain such rioters vibrant colors if it strikes them, for effective identification as arrests get made.
     
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  20. Nmwabbit

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    shades of history repeating it's self...

    "Within three months of Lincoln's election, seven states had seceded from the Union."

    hummm...