An upside down ariska

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by MobileMarine, Sep 12, 2011.

  1. MobileMarine

    MobileMarine New Member

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    I have a rather ragged looking ariska , think a type 38 , no stamp :( but anyway.
    Other than it not being a matching bolt that needs a tlc the barrel unscrews from the receiver . Problem in that when you screw it all the way in the sight is upside down lol . If you back it out enough to be upright it wiggles . This worries me as Im concerned about putting a round in it and the spacing not be right , that is if I can find 6.5 jap rounds . On a better note on of my customers gave me a bayonet that was a bring back and it just happens to be for the ariska and its been sharpened :D . Any thoughts for the barrel issue ?
     
  2. hiwall

    hiwall Active Member

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    Take it to a gunsmith to check the head space. If head space is OK then you could scope it or install new sights and shoot it the way it is. Option 2 is have gunsmith cut back the shoulder on the barrel until the sights are correct then cut back the back of the barrel until the action will close. Then recut chamber to the correct head space. Or put a different barrel on gun in the caliber of your choice. Or sell it. Or hide it in your garage. I think thats all your options.
     

  3. Firearms4ever

    Firearms4ever New Member

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    I would take it to a gunsmith. I have a type 38 Arisaka that my grandfather brought back from Japan after WWII, but I'm not as experienced or familiar with it as I am with the Mosin Nagant.

    I'd be glad to send you some 6.5 Jap ammunition, that is if I could find it -.-. How my wife managed to hide about 700 rounds of it from me and herself I don't know.
     
  4. MobileMarine

    MobileMarine New Member

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    700 rounds of 6.5 ???? Why dont you sell it and retire for a year ?
     
  5. c3shooter

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    Headspace is NOT just "screwing the barrel into the receiver". Please, do NOT try shooting it that way. The stains of body fluids on the floor make me get all depressed! :eek:

    As the man said, get a smith to check what's going on. May need some lathe time for that one. While the Arisaka is one of the strongest actions out there, the condition you have described can hurt you.
     
  6. JonM

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    its not that pricey :) graf and sons sells it 20.99 a box but they are currently sold out but they do stock it. it is easily loaded for as norma makes cases as does lapua if im not mistaken.

    your real issue is making sure you get the right ammo for the chamber there are two varieties 6.5x50 and 6.5x51 the x50 cases will work just fine in the x51 but not the otherway round.
     
  7. Firearms4ever

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    Yep. All of them are on stripper clips and I keep them in a few military ammo boxes, but I can't find them :eek:. Originally I think I had around 2,400 rounds :eek: that my grandfather brought back from Japan, but since then between me, my wife, and a few of my cousins we've brought it down to 700, but mostly my wife :eek:.
     
  8. MobileMarine

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    wonder if it can be re-barreled and chambered for 300winmag ? that would be bad ass even if it is the most un-american gun I own . Im not a expert on guns but I try to be a expert on the ones I own , Which is for some reason a scary amount . If a show about gun hoarders came out I would be featured lmao . Quantity not quality lol
     
  9. Trez

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    I had the same problem with my Win 1895, Take it to a gunsmith and he'll ether have to make a spacer or lathe and rechamber the barrel... It shoudlnt cost too much....

    If the rest of the Arisaka is in good condition and you have a bayonet, I would keep it original..

    @Firearms4ever.... If you find your Jap bullets would you sell me a couple of strippers with rounds? Id would like to have a couple in my collection. I have 1 stripper of 6.5 but it only has 4 rounds on it..
     
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  10. Firearms4ever

    Firearms4ever New Member

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    I'd be glad to sell you some once I find them, just don't tell my wife ;).
     
  11. MobileMarine

    MobileMarine New Member

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    I find myself in need of a brit 303 since I have about 100 very old rounds for one . Was that the only gun that shot 303s?
     
  12. c3shooter

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    There were several different .303 rifles that spanned 3/4ths of a century. There were also several machineguns in .303 Enfield.

    Re: rechambering the Arisaka to .300 Win Mag, while these were (for the most part) very strong actions, you may be going outside the envelope- bolt face, and whether the barrel has enough metal to BE rechambered. Go buy a .300 Win Mag is that is what floats yer boat.
     
  13. M14sRock

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    None of my business, but you are shooting up some seriously valuable, collectible ammo. Sell it and buy the commercial stuff from Hornady.
     
  14. MobileMarine

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    I may end up not doing anything with it , I purchased a old box that contains love letters from ww2 , along with them are some pins or medals , very old jap paper money that is in excellent condition , and most are post marked iwo jima , hawaii , san fransisco and i want to think one other island . What is so funny is that there two different men writting the same woman at the same time , the other was stationed here at ft bragg . If you knuckle heads would come down on the M1 prices it would make a very cool collection to have both rifles and the other stuff from the time all put together .
    Great grandpa had a scrape book full of stuff they pulled of the nazi guys that they knew they had killed . It ended up with the one family memeber who would sell it for 10 bucks so we are trying to get him to come off of it . I try to by stuff like that like at the antique stores when money is right . The amount of people who sell that stuff and could careless who it belonged too just baffles me
     
  15. Firearms4ever

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    I agree with you. I might be willing to sell some of my 6.5 ammunition, but not because I do not care about it. It's, because I had/have so much or it that I'm willing to sell some of it so others can enjoy having some too.

    The most valuable things I own I will never sell, and probably take with me to my grave. My great great grandfather was a general or colonel under Stonewall Jackson during the Civil war, and he had both Jackson AND Robert E. Lee sign two sets of confederate money that have been in my family ever since. I know that it's worth a fair amount of money, but the historical and sentimental value of it is worth more than any money amount to me and even my wife too.
     
  16. TheOldMan

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    Does the type 38 have a long enough action??? May not be able to rechamber .300 winmag. :confused: I'm prolly wrong cause I'm not at home where I can check my 38. But mines chambered in 6.5 Jap anyway.
     
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  17. 303tom

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    The Jap Arisaka was only chambered in two rounds, the 6.5x50 & the 7.7x58 & only in the type 99 & you can find both at any good ammo store, pictures of the rifle would help. O yeh take it to a smith & get it checked out.
     
  18. Firearms4ever

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    I considered doing just that, but as fate would have it my wife and I shot it one day just to see if the ammunition was still functional, and my wife fell in love with the round and firearm immediately. So I decided since she loved it so much I would save some of the ammunition, and let her use the rest how she wanted.
     
  19. Trez

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    Well at least im not the only weirdo who likes the "Jap" guns... :p
     
  20. 303tom

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    NO, you are not !!!!