Ammo

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by OUDAN, May 26, 2013.

  1. OUDAN

    OUDAN New Member

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    Ok guys I know right now you really can't be picky but I just got a new Colt le6920 which is the NATO 5.56 so I can shoot .223 as well. My question here is this, are there any things I should look for a steer away from when buyin ammo?
     
  2. kbd512

    kbd512 Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Yeah, steer away from poor quality or reloaded ammunition. An in-spec Colt carbine should reliably feed, extract, and eject any in-spec 556 OR 223 ammunition using 55 to 77 grain bullets.

    While you're at it, get quality magazines for your Colt. I prefer MagPul magazines to Colt or USGI aluminum magazines.

    Apart from poor quality ammunition, poor quality magazines are the other most frequent cause of problems in autoloaders.
     

  3. OUDAN

    OUDAN New Member

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    I got a magpul mag with my Colt, I got the Magpul edition. I plan to stick with those. So essentially no crap reloaded stuff and that's about it? Also little help performance wise the only difference will be accuracy?
     
  4. Vikingdad

    Vikingdad New Member

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    I use quite a bit of military surplus ammo. I find that some of the South African milsurp is great in my rifle, I also found that the Black Hills reloads are awesome, but not as good as my own handloads. The South American milsurp is crap for mine and some of the IMI is crap as well. But that's my rifle. Yours may prefer something else.
     
  5. OUDAN

    OUDAN New Member

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    Is there a certain grain count I should be looking for? Why shoot 5.56 vs .223 accuracy?
     
  6. sweeper22

    sweeper22 New Member

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    55gr or heavier. 62+gr is ideal, but 55gr will likely do its part. 223/556 doesn't much matter. Your gun is designed more for highly reliable feeding and acceptable accuracy than supertight tolerances and pinpoint accuracy. And that's not to imply it can't be really accurate.

    Buy brass ammo. 55gr is fine. Hope for deals on 62+gr. Magpul mags are great, but Lancers and Troys are every bit equal in quality in my experience. And aluminum USGI type mags can be plenty good too.
     
  7. mag318

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    Agreed that you should just use quality ammo in your new Colt. Mine really likes Winchester Q3131 55 grn and Federal M193 55 grn (Lake City).
    As for foreign ammo I agree the South African 5.56 is great stuff if you can find it. Lately I've been seeing a lot of the Korean PMC Bronze 55 grn 223 which I hear is decent. I would definately avoid any steel cased ammo.
    Both Winchester and Federal have excellent M855 62 grn 5.56 ball which is the current USGI issue.
     
  8. fsted2a

    fsted2a Active Member

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    Don't let anybody fool you; unless you got a defective gun, Colt's aren't picky eaters. Use the cheap stuff to plink and practice with, then the good stuff for when accuracy matters. I keep a box of russian steel case ammo for SHTF. My little red-head bastard stepchild of an AR will shoot ANYONE'S ammo that isn't defective. Eats the steel or brass equally. Live or blank, it doesn't care. Relax and go shoot your gun. It will do fine.
     
  9. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Be very careful when you hear people talk about "crap" ammo.

    There is absolutely wrong with steel cased Russian ammo. Or European ammo. 90 Percent of my shooting is my own reloads. Black Hills reloads are great ammo.

    There are some that will call ammo crap if it isn't made by labor union workers in the U.S. These folks have a personal agenda, so watch for them.
     
  10. Vikingdad

    Vikingdad New Member

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    .... and buy up what they won't touch!!:cool:
     
  11. OUDAN

    OUDAN New Member

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    Just found some Remington UMC on Armslist and got those.
     
  12. pawjr74

    pawjr74 New Member

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    The Remington UMC gets some bad reviews on the forums but I just bought a 200 mega pack of 55gr .223 and it all looked good and fired good. I didn't have any issues. On top of that I ran it through a brand new AR so I really didn't know what to expect. The rifle and ammo both worked flawlessly.
     
  13. okdonk

    okdonk New Member

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    Good rifle should be able to shoot any ammo. Regardless brass or steel. I shoot both kind on mine.
     
  14. fsted2a

    fsted2a Active Member

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    And if your gun has problems with a milspec magazine, it isn't the mag's fault. An AR was designed to be as milspec as possible without being full auto or burst. That means using milspec USGI magazines. If your gun is a picky eater on either the ammo or magazines, what are you going to do when SHTF and that is all that is available? We are almost there now.!!! The fight isn't over with the libtards like nobama and dianne f***stein trying to take our guns every time we turn around. If anyone reading this has an AR that is having issues with the USGI mags or different types of ammo, I suggest you fix it, even if you only plan to shoot competition loads. The Lake City ammo that we shoot at the military ranges is low quality stuff, often with irregular loads, and troops still manage to get dime size shot groups on iron sights at over 75 feet.
    To the OP; sorry we are re-hashing old grounds. You have a quality firearm, and you should spend quality time with it. Go to your range, shoot it, and let us know how it goes.
     
  15. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Well said, sir. All TRUE MilSpec magazines are equal (although I think my new PMags just may be a little more equal than the others:D)

    No matter what miracles your super-duper pooper scooper may perform on the range, when it comes down to live or die, the only thing that matters is that your rifle, loaded with whatever ammo is available, LC, WWB Wolf Tula or whatever, goes bang every single time you pull the trigger,.
     
  16. MattShlock

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    The twist of the rifle helps suggest the bullet weight. 1:7 use 62+ grain. 1:8 try to use 62 grain. 1:9 use 62 and 55 grain. 1:10 try to use 55 grain. 1:11 use 55- grain.
     
  17. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I have very good results in my Colt (1/7) with 55 grain M193.
     
  18. rocshaman

    rocshaman New Member

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    I've got an older Colt with a 1/12 twist, I use nothing but 55 gr ammo through it. I've actually never tried any other grain bullet through it but it does well with the 55 gr.
     
  19. dwmiller

    dwmiller Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I too have an older 1 in 12 DM heavy barrel. It really shines with 35 _ 40 grain HP nosler reloads and high velocities. Shoots like a 22_250 lite, with a fast followup shot for varmiting. I reload it to near max working pressure and get appx 3900 fps with this round.
     
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  20. johnr1943

    johnr1943 New Member

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    I use the PMC outdoors with 100% success and good accuracy. I have a RRA LAR-15 though. :)