Ammo Choices for AK

Discussion in 'AK & SKS Discussion' started by Ruzai, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. Ruzai

    Ruzai New Member

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    We all know an AK will usually cycle anything you put through it and feeding an AK is like feeding a hungry black hole. At one point or another we all usually resort to buying large quantities of ammo in order to become good shooters with our "boolet hose". My question for you fellas is what's your experience with the ammo you've sent down-range through your AK? Best brand of ammo? HP or FMJ or perhaps soft-point? And what about accuracy with what you've used?
    I want to buy 1K round case for my AK-47 and wanted some opinions. I originally thought of reloading for it but I figure the components would cost more than the factory ammo does.
     
  2. CornCod

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    I have two AK type rifles (Yugo Underfolder and Unconverted Saiga) and an SKS. Right now I use the cheapest 7.62X39 I can find, which is Brown Bear 123gr HP. Over the years, I have fired all sorts of X39 ammo: Silver Bear, Golden Tiger, Wolf Black Box, Wolf Military Classic, Red Chinese Corrosive, Red Chinese Non-Corrosive, E. German Surplus, Czech Commercial Sellier and Bellot, Russian TCW, Monarch and Remington/UMC. the only stuff i would not recommend would be Egyptian Surplus which fired, but was super hot, causing distortions to the cases.
     

  3. aktommysks

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    7.62 ammo

    I pretty much agree that most ammo out there will function well in either ak or sks. I personally like the yugo m67, it's mildly corrosive other then that it's a big improvement over the m43 round. It yaws at about 3", bassically it's alot nastier. Again mildly corrosive keep your gun clean, and it works great. It's also brass, all depends what u are looking for. With my russian sks i get tighter grouping
     
  4. Ruzai

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    I'm personally not one for corrosive ammo because it encourages pitting in the barrel if you miss any of the corrosive agent, but it still has its place in the world. Oddly enough it seems to be the most accurate ammo out of the stats I've found. I wonder if its because of the brass cases affecting the increase in grouping.
    I guess there isnt much of a demand for non-corrosive brass cased ammo on the market, since the steel cased has it cornered price wise. How much more accurate do you think brass cased non-corrisive ammo could be over the steel cased non-corrisive and would it be worth the investment in the reloading components or factory ammo?
     
  5. Biohazurd

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    I just use a variety of russian steel cased ammo in both AK and SKS rifles. Most of all Wolf military classic hps, or soft points for hunting...
     
  6. aktommysks

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    ammo choices for ak

    I also am not a big fan on corrosive ammo, but have not had any problems with the yugo. I do keep my guns clean though. I don't know why i get good grouping, maybe it's the brass or maybe the bullet dynamics. I like the Russian, but i do get flyers. In the end it's all good, just getting out and having a good time shooting.
     
  7. pranc2

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    the bears work good and seemed to be not as dirty. shot some cheap corrosive through my sks and it just took two and a half times to clean it the way i wanted it. my ak on the other hand only golden bear and remington in it. no chromed lined on that one.
     
  8. Ruzai

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    I took a close look at the reloading statistics of the 7.62x39 and it turns out that the bullet diameter is .311 of an inch which is more towards the .303 British round instead of the traditional .308 Winchester's diameter which is .308 of an inch obviously. I guess this is yet another reason reloading isnt a popular with the round. But me being a non-conformist on a lot of things I'll end up loading them anyhow to see how tight I can squeeze the grouping out of my bullet hose.
     
  9. pranc2

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    did you check out the diameter for the 7.62x54R? just wondering. kind of always thought of that one to be more like a .308. and the ammo for the 7.62x39 is pretty cheap anyway.
     
  10. Ruzai

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    I just checked the diameter for the 7.62x54R, its diameter is .310 inches. So its just under the same diameter as the 7.62x39. Not sure why caliber markings have to be so ambiguous. All my measurements that I havent done from experience are from the 2nd edition of Modern Reloading from Richard Lee.
     
  11. pranc2

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    i have also heard that weapons made for .308win have problems shooting 7.62nato were as weapons made for 7.62nato can shoot either round with no problems.
     
  12. Ruzai

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    The two caliber designations can be confusing to the common shooter who does not have the right info about the two types of calibers. They look the same to the naked eye but what sets them apart is the thickness of the brass and the pressure each is loaded to. The 308 Win's brass walls are a bit thinner than the 7.62 NATO because it has a lower pressure than the 7.62 NATO. If the gun doesnt specifically say 7.62x51 NATO on the gun then it wont cycle it as easily and isnt safe to use with the higher pressure. The firearm may survive the higher pressure but only for a short time because technically you'd be shooting a higher pressure than its designed for.

    Surplus ammo for my FAL is something I havent looked into yet, I'm working on getting a new receiver before I do. I wont shoot anything but 308 Win in it because if I were to use the higher pressure it would start to develop hair-line fractures in the receiver.
     
  13. pranc2

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    makes lots of sense.. i hardly see anything with a 7.62nato for a new weapon. always old military. good to know though
     
  14. Ruzai

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    Let me retract my statement about the 7.62 NATO and the 308 Winchester pressures. Since I brought this up in the FAL Files forum, I've been supposedly corrected, but I cant really make hardly heads or tails of it. We do know one or the other has a higher pressure but it seems to me people cant agree on which has the higher pressure.

    Personally the logic I was going off of was
    A) I figured the thicker case walls of the 7.62 NATO compared to the commercial 308 Win case walls would create more pressure if you merely used the same grain weight from a 308 Win load in a 7.62 NATO case.
    B) I have always been told the military has had to have hotter loaded rounds because of the jobs and targets they may face, so I figured the 7.62 NATO would be the hotter of the two.
    Sound logic right? Apparently....not so much...

    Here's the link to the FAL Files Forum threat about "7.62x51 NATO vs 308 Winchester" http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22889

    Its a good argument...if you can keep up with it, but I'm not going to discuss it here, someone else can post a thread in the Ammunition section if they wanna talk about it.
     
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  15. pranc2

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    no it does.. what i saw did not give a real answer either. also seems to be one of Americas oldest arguments...lol
     
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  16. XDMike

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    I like the Yugo stuff.Yea,its a little dirty,but its cheap and always goes BANG for me.
     
  17. armtactical

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    I use Golden Bear for my Arsenal SGL23
     
  18. KentuckyBob

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    I have only shot Wolf and have not had any feed problems plus it's accurate enough for me.
     
  19. Ruzai

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    I just got a free box of 123 Grain SST 7.62x39 from Hornady when I ordered from Midway USA. I've heard it's absolute hell on pigs and I now have 100 rounds of the stuff so if I can ever get a scope mount for my AK I'll let you guys know how accurate it is. I'm waiting on the Krebs Custom rail to come back in stock somewhere before I test accuracy of the 4 different brands of AK-47 ammo I have.
     
  20. Boyerracing343

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    Golden bear hollow points and soft points have yet to let me down.