American Mil-Surps!!

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by Trez, Jan 5, 2014.

  1. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    Lets see those American Soldiers! :)

    I think American rifles are the best... Nobody cares if they match, and even ones mass produced during wartime have superb fit and finish!

    Here are mine... A 1933 M1903 Springfield and a 1918 M1917 Remington (Just got the Bayonet for it, Im so stoked!! :D )
     

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  2. sputnik1988

    sputnik1988 Active Member

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    Just the one for me.

    HRA M1 Garand. Has a SA trigger group, just about everything else is HRA.

    Terrible pic as mine usually are... I have a better camera but no computer, so IPad is as good as they get for know.:(
     

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  3. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    Yes we just have to love our American military firearms. I have a number of Garands and some .30 M-1 carbines AKA "War Babies". As far as I know the H&R Garands made after WWII never went to war. The one I have is like new. The Springfield Mdl. of 1903 is a beautiful rifle.
    It is of interest to note that the Garand was originally intended to be chambered in the 7 X 51 Pedersen. :)
     
  4. Winchester94

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    Very good looking rifles! I love those older bolt action rifles!
     
  5. unclebear

    unclebear New Member

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    Me ive been wanting a 1903 spring field for years. I love old american bolt guns only problem i have is finding them.
     
  6. xring3

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    They are out there but, the prices are high
     
  7. Mercator

    Mercator Active Member

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    What makes the 1903 better than the contemporary Enfield, in your opinion? Open question. I probably would go with the Springer just to save on ammo. Thoughts?
     
  8. string1946

    string1946 New Member

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    I got a few that have already been posted but maybe tomorrow I'll put a couple of logs on the fire and post them again. I do love these old soldiers.
     
  9. zaitsev44

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    I have just one for now. A 1943 National Postal Meter M1 Carbine imported by Blue Sky. The rifling is very good, and has nice character. Probably my favorite rifle to shoot, closely followed by my SKS. ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1389044940.053102.jpg sorry for the poor picture, I'll get a better one when I get home.
     
  10. jpattersonnh

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    .276 Pedersen, it would have held 10 rounds.
    http://www.ammogarand.com/276-pedersen-early-garand-test-rounds-1929-sea.html
     
  11. unclebear

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    I dont know about better but ive just always wanted one since i was little i guess for me a history thing the doe boys back in ww1 and the marines in ww2 heck even korea and some in vietnam. Im just a big history guy. Ive been wanting an enfield to just havent gotten around to it.
     
  12. jpattersonnh

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    Brit MK1 , No4, M1914, or M1917?? The M1917 is an Enfield design. It is far superior to the 1903. My Dad carried the '03 in the Pacific and hated it. Started out as a BAR man, when he was promoted the handed him an '03. WWI rifles did not fare well in the jungle.
    He is center back. Bougainville 1943.
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  13. Mercator

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    I am familiar with Mark I. Never studied the Enfields, but always saw them favorably compared to the Mosin and the Mauser. The spring lôaded bolt action had to be the fastest ever. The reason I never bought one, it would be a safe queen after 2-3 boxes at $1+ a pop. Great picture, a real treasure.
     
  14. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    Jpattersonn, Yes when you just say Enfield?:rolleyes: The P-14 was chambered in a poor cartridge. The P-17 was plagued by metallurgy problems during WWI. The P-17 was notorious for cracking receiver rings. Old WWI veterans right or wrong claimed more "Dough Boys" were blinded by P-17 rifles than by the Germans.
    Over the years many P-17 rifles were converted to magnums. It is a known fact these receivers should be checked for hair line fractures. The Remington Mdl. 30 was a result of the old War Horse.
    JPat, have you ever considered how the American sporting cartridges would have evolved? The 7X51 Pedersen would have replaced the "06". :confused: The .257 Roberts would have been 6MMs too short?:D
     
  15. string1946

    string1946 New Member

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    Ok here is my Eddystone Remington Pattern 14 Enfield. I'm not sure about what looks like swiss crosses, one on the right of the butt stock and one on the right forearm. Guess I should research that sometime. I know its not an American mil surp but it was the pattern for the Model of 1917.
     

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  16. string1946

    string1946 New Member

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    And here is the Pattern 14's American twin the Model of 1917 Remington.
     

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  17. seancslaughter

    seancslaughter New Member

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    Maltese cross stamp was meant "For Emergency Use Only" according to the stratton book
     
  18. string1946

    string1946 New Member

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    Ok thank. I have Stratton's books Volume 1 and 2 but they don't cover the P 14. Not sure what "For Emergency Use Only" means.
     
  19. seancslaughter

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    its abbreviated but it basically means for emergency use only use ball ammo. Basically these rifles were given to the home guard or sent to India because they were not upgraded
     
  20. string1946

    string1946 New Member

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    Ok thanks for the info. thats interesting.